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Recieved: 2004/10/11  20:24  
Subject: RE: [K-list] Re: trying awakening 
From: SAC
  
On 2004/10/11  20:24, SAC posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
 
Hi Steve, 
 
I answered this late last week and I have been having probs with my 
server and it didn't make it through. So let me try again. :) It doesn´t 
look too much like the first one I wrote. Oh well.... 
 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Stephen Kowalchuk [mailto:spkATkowalchuk.org]  
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:31 AM 
To: K-listATkundalini-gateway.org 
Subject: [K-list] Re: trying awakening 
 
Hello everyone.  Just weighing in on the subject of deliberately rousing 
 
kundalini for the purpose of exploiting the siddhis. 
 
 
[Susan ]  Kinda like taking human growth hormone so you can be taller 
for the prom. Not a good idea. 
 
[Steve ] If I may be bold here, that's a really bad idea...on the same 
order as  
poking at a hornet's nest because you know there's honey somewhere 
within. 
 
[Susan ]  The ironic thing about siddhis is that they loose their appeal 
after your k awakening process has matured. I have demonstrated all of 
them to some degree of intensity. It´s a wild experience when they 
happen but their appeal is like being a three year old kid with a 
sparkly, shiny object. All flash and no substance and you get bored of 
them after awhile. They can even become annoying and a hinderance. Who 
wants to know all the things everyone is thinking? Yuk. 
 
Siddhis give you an idea of what the abilities of a fully awakened human 
being can have but they are the side dish, not the main menu. The real 
benefit of k awakening is a peaceful heart and a calm mind; a felt 
understanding that you are one with All that Is. Siddhis are really just 
a bag of tricks, that if we become enamored with them, prevent us from 
growing further. That's how a lot of people get "stuck" on the path. 
Steve, you have known me long enough to know that I have understandings 
and abilities that far supercede that which are just embodied in the 
siddhis. This comes after the siddhi stage. 
 
[Steve ] Awakening Kundalini is something one does with lots of 
forethought and  
preparation if possible.  It's something people talk about "surviving", 
and  
not casually.  Gopi Krishna's book "Living With Kundalini" is one 
example  
of a survival story. 
 
On the other hand, folks like Glenn Morris and Susan Carlson have been  
doing Shaktipat in seminars, and report good results with fewer side  
effects.  Has the field changed regarding the complications of Kundalini 
 
awakening?  I'm open to discussion, but my advice remains the same. 
Don't  
attempt to rouse the Kundalini unless you are prepared to accept the  
consequences. 
 
[Susan ] Between Glenn and I we have done hundreds of Shaktipat 
initiations with Glenn doing the larger number cause he has been at it 
longer. We have had no significant or insurmountable problems because we 
teach kundalini awakening with proven, simple safeguards. 
 
Be aware, the process can be dangerous. It can be likened to stepping 
off a bicycle and getting into a Ferrari. Most people need some training 
and instruction. You need not to loose your common sense in this. 
 
We now do Shaktipat as a team which seems to bring even smoother 
results. People often get off our massage table giggling, wearing a big 
smile. Although Glenn and I can give Shaktipat by intent (thought) alone 
we give people a meridian massage first. We want to prepare the energy 
channels in the body to get ready to take the higher intensity level of 
kundalini through the nervous system. 
 
Awakening  the Kundalini is the second birth. And yes, when something is 
born there will be consequences for a lifetime. 
 
Thank you, Steve. 
 
Shakti hugs, 
Susan 
 
 
My $0.02. 
 
Steve 
 
Susan A. Carlson, BSN RN 
::Intuitive Coaching for Spiritual Emergence:: 
Enlightenment is a Biological Process 
http://www.kundalinisupportnetwork.com 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KundaliniSupportNetwork/ 
 
 
 
 
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