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Recieved: 2004/08/20  17:21  
Subject: Re: [K-list] what goes up 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
  
On 2004/08/20  17:21, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
 
 
At 02:05 PM 18/08/2004, Lone Path wrote: 
>Hi Mystress, 
> 
>You say, "The road back down is arguably more challenging, only made  
>easier because the path up has accustomed one to odd experiences, and the  
>importance of surrender." 
> 
>Can you explain this further please, "The road back down"?  What are the  
>implications/symptoms, etc.?  Thank you. 
 
    On the way up, K opens the lower chakras enough for the energy to flow  
through, but does not clear all the issues or open them completely.  
Traditionally, chakras are depicted as flowers, it is like how a rose opens  
one petal at a time. Chakras being opened, and fully opened is not the same  
thing, just as being awakened, and fully awakened are different places  
along the path. 
 
    On the way up, you discover different aspects of consciousness. At some  
chakras, most notably the heart and crown, you get experiences of  
realization and the Unity of all things... so that you may know these  
things for Truth, in your heart and mind.. but these experiences, while  
life changing are not permanent. You visit the places but you do not live  
there yet. 
 
    The trip back down, is about bringing the higher chakra insights down  
into your physical, day to day reality.  Two universes, the higher chakra  
non-dual universe, and the lower chakras world of duality, individuality,  
multiplicity. The light of the crown shining downwards to illuminate the  
shadows in the lower chakras, so you may know Goddess is All. 
 
   On the road back down, you get challenging experiences that must be  
integrated into the unity perspective. Going down, bringing the crown  
chakra unity into the second chakra issues of relationships, sex, money,  
power struggles, etc. These things are just too big and deep and muddy to  
try to tackle on the way up. You need the support and faith of the higher  
chakra guidance to carry you through. 
 
    Experiencing Goddess in meditation is one thing, seeing Divine Will in  
Hitler, death, taxes, road rage and some dick's attitude... ;) is quite  
another, and necessary to make the self realized state permanent.  So you  
can live there, instead of just visiting. 
 
    It is integrating the Shadow, seeing the Divine at work, where you  
think She is not. For example, rejection is navigation. Goddess within  
those who reject you, give you what you need to keep moving on till you  
find the place where you belong, and keep you from settling for less. 
 
    It has been said, that the highest attainments are an act of Will. I  
found this to be so. Kundalini takes you up, and if you choose to keep  
growing and ask, it will take you down too. 
 
    You can find a lot of Gurus, spiritual teachers or whatever,  who can  
be defined as enlightened, because they have ready access to the higher  
guidance, but are very scornful of the body, the pleasures and needs of the  
flesh... they got to the crown, which is an out of body experience and  
assumed they were done. 
 
    Easy to deny the body food and cuddles if you are not in it to feel  
it's needs and desires... and of course if they do indulge then the focus  
of attention pulls back into the body, which might feel nasty to them, if  
they have neglected to release all the karma from it... especially compared  
to the crown state .  This reinforces their idea that sex will cause them  
to "fall from grace." 
 
    Sex is not an impediment to enlightenment, it can be a rocket ship to  
enlightenment. Just different paths. 
 
    Quite different to feel the body desires, see Goddess perfection in  
them, and have no attachment to whether they get fulfilled or not. 
 
    As the issues of the lower chakras are cleared, the body get lighter-  
en-light-ened. The body's vibration rises, and you migrate to living in a  
higher chakra dimension of ease and bliss. 
 
At 02:49 PM 18/08/2004, mara lynn wrote: 
>I hope you don't mind another question. 
 
   Eh, I seem to be in a writing mood today. On another list I have been  
explaining when to use a jpg or a gif, and how to make tables resizable...  
webdesign stuff. Probably I'm just avoiding a lot of other stuff I have to  
do, like housework and gluing formica to my soap molds. 
 
>  Does this mean it will move back down through all the chakras and end in  
> the root? 
 
    hmm, hmm, hmm... yes/no/maybe. 
    You make two assumptions: 
    1.) that there is an end. 
    2.) That the end would be the root chakra... 
 
    The center of the earth is the source of K for humans in linearity...  
you feel it come in the root... and when grounded you feel it coming in  
your feet, the soles tingle. 
 
    Depending on the will of the individual, it may not end at the root.  
You may be drawn to clear all the way down to the fiery crystal at the  
heart of the Earth, and from there, through the doorway to the Void. 
 
    This is the mystery: the grounding cord reveals itself to not be a line  
between sun and Earth Heart,  but a circle because both ends are doorways  
to the infinite Void. 
 
    At this point, the linearity goes poof. Kundalini is not seen as  
something that enters, so much as "I AM that." 
 
    I still practice the grounding, mostly when working in empathy with  
other people, to assist the vertical flow in them. By myself, simply  
focusing on my heart and power chakra is grounding and rapture. 
 
    Each petal of a chakra has different properties. One petal of the heart  
holds the mystery of the infinite. The heart chakra is the source of the  
"Still small voice" of Divine Guidance because the heart chakra has the  
entire universe in it. Don't try to understand it logically... ;) 
 
    Think of someone whom you think is most evil... it may be a political  
or historical figure, a parent or ex-lover. ;) When the heart is fully  
opened, you can love them unconditionally, and most importantly, see them  
as Goddess, a manifestation of Divine Will, perfection just as they are.  
You may get a sense of the higher purpose in what they do. 
 
    It does not mean you need to do as they do, ... but when you can do  
that with anyone or anything, then  you can ground into your heart. The  
heart cannot fully open so long as you think there is some thing in the  
world that Goddess is not. 
 
    Namaste meditation: 
http://kundalini-teacher.com/meditations/namaste.html 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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