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Recieved: 2004/08/14 20:35
Subject: Re: [K-list] Loving myself
From: Rick Mayweather


On 2004/08/14 20:35, Rick Mayweather posted thus to the K-list:

I find everyone's reply's interesting, thank you. Some of which I read as
being that some people don't truly love themselves even though they say they
do, but in time you surely will, look deeper. I used to shy away from the
word love, I was embarassed by it, I still don't fully know what it is, but
I have had glimpses.

My understanding is that compassion towards ourself leads to peace and then
to love. When
there is no desire to love but we take a compassionate viewpoint towards
ourself it seems to make a big(huge) difference (for me at least). Does
that make any sense because love happens spontaneously like the wind, rain
and sun because it can't be produced by the mind, it's who we are.

Should we now discuss compassion which is the key ? Because in my
understanding it's compassion that leads to total acceptance and then we're
left with who we are, pure love. The Dalai Llama talks about this, anyone
recommend any reading as i'm starting to understand.


>In a message dated 8/13/2004 3:53:56 PM Mountain Standard Time,

>thelonepathATyahoo.co.uk writes:
>No disrespect to anyone here but this question of people not loving
>themselves has puzzled me for years and I still wonder today how that can
>be because we
>do everything for ourselves don’t we;

>Holly wrote:
>Great topic. Some of the confusion comes in how the subject is discussed.
>I
>believe that it is NOT loving self that creates self-obsession. Depressed
>people, for example, are among the most self-absorbed in the world -- as
>their
>friends and family can attest. Paradoxically, loving self means complete
>acceptance of oneself as a flawed, beautiful human being, which leads to
>unselfconsciousness and an actual forgetting of self most of the time. I,
>personally,
>could not even approach this stance until I had some experience with
>non-duality where I could see how I was part of a vast whole. Then the
>whole idea of a
>personal self became irrelevant and acceptance was inherent to being. One
>of
>the great lessons of being a psychologist is seeing that we are similar and
>ordinary in our flaws and neuroses, and special and awesome in our gifts.
>Many
>of us have this backwards. Holly
>

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