To: K-list 
Recieved: 2004/06/28  22:22  
Subject: RE: [K-list] Re: K-list Digest, Vol 12, Issue 13 
From: J.1 G.
  
On 2004/06/28  22:22, J.1 G. posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
 
 
it has taken me away from passion of life and i 
>am distanced by this information about reality that i am interested in. 
 
 
i suffer in that way too-its no good to be so totally consumed by  
something-spiritually there are so many ways to enjoy your self, or  
experience your self, so many things to discover...focusing on the world  
around you, rather than your self could help much with balance..loving and  
appreciating colors is a good way to step outside of your self. i suggest  
looking and noticing things differently-simple things..like how oddly shaped  
your printer/fax is..milk jugs can be amazing, if you were to really notice,  
and realize their shape. 
 
..also, don't try to over do your own meditations. i had created a lot of  
silliness in my life due to me wanting to experience more, more creativity,  
more understanding, more this, more that. let that go. you already have  
everything you need..furthermore, to really make any changes with your  
self..you really have to make a life habit out of..what ever it is that you  
are shooting for..for example..when someone first connects to creativity, it  
can very much be like a child first reading a book..here you are, with  
little to no experience with something, trying to understand it, trying to  
realize all of its parts, it really takes a few years to make any kind of  
major change..that is unless you've had plenty of experiance..anyway.. 
 
i have become really exceedingly horrible at having sex. all of 
>this 
 
don't label your self that way..think about it, if you label your self as  
something, you walk around in a state of mind where you are telling your  
self "i am a bad lover"...every moment you spend telling your self, your  
believing your self to be a bad lover is like a meditation-its very much  
like meditating-you're putting your energy, or your thoughts, and your body  
motions into telling your self, or your spiritual body that you are closed  
to something...on top of that, this negative thought could effect  
everything-the way you set your coffee cup down for example.. 
 
 
if i were in your shoes, i'd ask myself-am i simply going through a phase?  
is kundalini likely to simply turn everything all upside down again? is this  
the way that the energy has led me? 
 
it seems like your spiritual desires have consumed you to a point where  
other desires don't really seem possible. in this way, it seems as if you  
might just try and rid your self of these desires. wanting seems like a  
childish thing almost, instead of wanting, try to train your self  
differently.  anytime any kind of unhealthy want or desire comes up-meaning  
any kind of want that makes you too unhappy just cause you dont have it..try  
talking to your self, meaning your mind, your body, and your soul 
 
...maybe say    "why do i want that? why do i want to be controlled by my  
desires? what good will that do for my life?  why don't i just let that  
silly want go, and realize that life is already providing, already giving..i  
already have all of my chakras, i already am connected to source, perhaps  
what ever it is i'm trying to find in my self i already am.." 
i tend to talk to myself like this a lot sometimes, its a matter of pulling  
your self away from your bad habits, even the littlest ones sometimes...its  
also a matter of realizing how much how you look at your self effects  
you...and its also a matter of taking responsibility for the way that you  
are being.  you are being in a state where you have disconnected your self  
from sexual knowledge in exchange for spiritual, and further more you don't  
sound like you are all that happy about it. 
 
 
have you ever experienced a state of euphoria? or any small fraction of  
enlightenment? experiencing these kinds of states randomly, and accidentally  
kind of tells me that i, us, and we, are all connected, completely connected  
to our energy bodies, and that enlightenment is simply a state of being. in  
that kind of a way, currently you are in a being in a way that doesn't quite  
link up with how you'd really like to be. 
 
so from this we can gather a few deductions-you want to be different, you  
want to experience your spiritual body, you want to experience someone else  
sexualy in a way that you are satisfied with...and probably in a way that  
they are satisfied with too..try to let go of allllll of these wants. just  
breath deeply, and let 'em go. don't push them away, just..simply let them  
go, its okay if they come back..but you might want to clear out the bulk of  
them..go ahead and see your self as letting go of these issues with wants  
and desires. get rid of this stuff first. its all these wants and desires  
that are making you unhappy...these wants are getting in the way of you  
seeing your self..instead of seeing your self, you seem to judge your self  
maybe?   and sadness can be a positive thing yanno...but if you are in a  
place where these issues are actually causing a negative emotion, you are  
putting this negative emotional energy into all of your life..and this  
negative emotional energy will effect how you react to things, how you see  
your self, how sunny the skys seem, which movies you watch, how you feel  
about other people..ect ect 
 
get away from what you think you want, and what you think you need, and let  
all goo goo gooo, and then try to figure out if you really want or desire  
anything at all. figure that out, then go deep into mediation, and in this  
state find a nice positive, healthy way for your self to tell your body,  
mind and soul, that yes, you CAN be a good lover, go ahead and be a little  
sarcastic even, and realize that it ain't very hard, and just cause things  
aren't perfect, that doesn't mean that you gotta look down on your self..you  
start looking down on your self..you start to think of your self as a bad  
lover..you start to see your self as a bad lover...you start to have no  
hope. you see? 
 
 
>i hope that maybe someone can help me with this problem , with a kundalini 
>method , extraterrestrial , from the heart , anything. i'm a 'freak' and  
>have so 
>much fear inside from all of life and what has happened to me through this 
>tingling. 
> 
>hoping to hear anything, 
>Patrick 
 
 
fear can be a good thing, it opens you up...you might start to question  
things, and you might to start to think things like "oh no! something "bad"  
might happen..maybe i've been judged by the eyes of god!" gosh no...all yer  
really doing is realizing that something spiritual might be going on, and  
you can't figure out if its good, or bad..and its scary because its new..but  
always keep in mind, there's nothing to worry about.. 
 
..this just might be another good meditation, that is if you can keep it up  
long enough to make it stick?  meditate on being worryless...everything is  
already taken care of, there is no cause for concern, just let go of all the  
problems, the wants, the desires, the needs, the reason you have to suffer,  
and try to simply allow your self be worryless...allow your self to be sooo  
worryless, take an hour, take all day...allow your self to slowly slowly  
become sooo worryless...soooo worryless that you can actually realize that  
this probably is just a phase that you're going through, that nothing is  
actually wrong, everything will change as everything will always  
change...maybe out of being sooo worryless, you just might find your self  
feeling positive enough to realize that it can be incredibly easy to  
surrender, and this includes sexually 
 
jason 
 
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