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Recieved: 2004/05/10  09:42  
Subject: [K-list] RE: Ida and Pingala discussion thread by Gustaf contin 
From: Gustaf Grefberg
  
On 2004/05/10  09:42, Gustaf Grefberg posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
 
Thank you kindly for your response!  What brings up most curiousity at the 
moment is the relationship between the swara and K.  Does the swara stop to 
alternate between the two nostrils at a certain stage of K, and both 
nostrils always flow simultaneously, or, does K in sushumna make sure the 
swara flows and alternates at a correct rythm? 
 
Shivaya Namah 
Gustaf   
 
    
It is stated that these 2 nerves have to merge into the Sushumna passage 
                                                                     
You may find 'Merging with Siva' by Satguru Sivaya Subramuniya Swami a  
very good source 
 
Not really.  At any rate, the vital energy is required for the body. 
And, that is kept up even during our unconscious sleep 
But, the mind can merge into the Self. 
By the way, K is only an admixture of the mind and the vital 
                                                                      
Yes.  It must be fun to discuss these things. 
 
I would write 4 lines now about the relationship of Ida and Pingala to  
sleep and spiritual practice. 
 
The Brahmins, the companions of the river banks, are the fire among 
fires. 
(for, they are to be truly spiritual, workig with the K). 
When the twin nerves (Ida and Pingala), 
constituting the inner meaning of having kept the Sound as the companion 
(of Brahmins, who are to chant the Vedas constantly), 
function merged (in the Sushumna passage) in the midnight  
that is the one pure path of the twin (nerves functioning) like the 
Light 
 
(Tirumantiram 216 by Sage Tirumular in His Immortal Tamil Scriptural  
Masterpiece "Tirumantiram") 
 
We can discuss this.  I have just given the literal translation. 
The necessary support words for fuller comprehension, I have inserted  
within brackets) 
 
Thanks and kind regards 
RK Shankar 
 
 
 
 
 
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