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Recieved: 2004/04/18  16:51  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Absorption States Within A Theistic Context 
From: Jeffrey Brooks
  
On 2004/04/18  16:51, Jeffrey Brooks posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
 
Hello Hillary you make some very interesting points.  
I agree with you, that if the mystic's experience of 
gnosis transcends cultural boundaries, then I believe 
we can conclude that it is "hard wired" into us.  
However, I would not conclude that therefore it is 
meaningless.  After all there is pleasure in it, that 
is why it is called bliss and ecstasy.  There must be 
a reason why it is bliss and ecstasy, because we are 
going to want it.  So, why not seek it out? 
 
Kindest regards, 
 
Jeff Brooks 
 
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 20:26:29 EDT 
From: DruoutATaol.com 
Subject: Re: [K-list] Absorption States (Jhanas) 
Within A Theistic 
        Context 
To: K-listATkundalini-gateway.org 
Cc: jhananandaATyahoo.com 
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Dear Jeff, List, 
 
If we can agree that many if not most religions have 
mystic states in  common  (and I think most of us who 
have experienced these states naturally  agree),  and 
these states can be divided into categories or levels, 
then it  seems to me  that the mystic condition must 
be part of the human condition--hard  wired into  the 
brain as it were--and not something we "learn."   
 
Is it then the sense that there are "levels" which 
makes it logical to  want  to reach out as if there 
were a goal?  Or are these levels really just  
different parts of the brain that are being activated, 
with no real  metaphysical  conclusions to be had at 
all? 
 
Just mulling 
 
Love, Hillary 
 
 
         
                 
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