To: K-list 
Recieved: 2004/03/13  14:17  
Subject: Re: [K-list] meds poll 
From: Noel Kaufmann
  
On 2004/03/13  14:17, Noel Kaufmann posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
 
I agree; I think focusing exclusively or even dominantly on the inner spiritual path is a kind of fundamentalism in itself.  Don't forget the world, and heavens to Betsy, if you're in the US, vote in November.  Democracy means YOU. 
 
Namaste 
NK 
 
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  From: TAYLORBKLYNATaol.com  
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  Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:08 AM 
  Subject: Re: [K-list] meds poll 
 
 
 
   
 
 
  In a message dated 3/13/2004 2:38:31 AM Central Standard Time,  
  my_chick73AThotmail.com writes: 
  > > 1.  Have you ever taken medication for "Kundalini 
  >related" symptoms? 
 
  Yes..that is if I suffer from "Kundalini". I simply could be a "basket case",  
  but the theory that my pain could be psycho/spiritual gives me hope and a  
  love for life. 
 
  > > 2.  What symptoms were involved? 
  The energy was so intense when "it" developed that I went nuts...found myself  
  believing that I had to learn to dance in order to channel what was going  
  through me...that's when the men in the white coats showed up.  
 
  > > 3.  Was the treatment "forced" on you?  Yes (those bastards).  
 
 
  > > 4.  What medication did you take? Don't know what they gave me initially,  
  but I wish they would have shot me instead...it hurt incredibly. Was  
  discharged after three weeks in the psych ward on Zyprexa, Loranzepan and Celexa...was  
  told that it was not schizophrenia, but manic/depression and given Lithium,  
  Buspar, Clonazepan...when they wanted to give me some other things, I called  
  upon myself for a diagnosis. Been off the drugs for more than a year now...have  
  found the gym very helpful in addition to tasks such as cooking and playing  
  the clarinet. 
 
 
  > > 5.  How long did you take it/them? About 10 months. 
 
 
  > > 6.  How effective did you find them to be? They brought me down to  
  reality, so I guess they did their thing. However, I wish the psychiatric community  
  were more sensitive to one's spirituality. I received a "take down" in the  
  ward because I continued to stretch and do yoga postures in the hallway..when a  
  nurse asked me what I was doing, I replied "Jesus is real and I'm enlightened",  
  the next thing you know...I was in restraints, etc....very frightening. 
 
 
  > > 7.  Would you recommend taking mediation to others. Yes (as silly as that  
  sounds), but not the types I was given. Celexa was kinda cool (that's an  
  anti-depressant). However, for a bipolar patient, it can initiate hypomania.  
  Lithium will keep you in your place and help to confirm on a daily basis that I am  
  not God. The only problem is that while on that drug, I don't always remember  
  how to spell my name. Pot works wonders...it helps the pain tremendously but  
  my mind tends to race when I smoke that. All those drugs, including the pot,  
  are addictive. That little flame inside me lets me know that this energy is the  
  cross that I must take up. During the height of my mania and while in a  
  delusional state, an angel told me..."You have to go through the fire to come out  
  like gold". 
 
 
 
 
 
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