To: K-list 
Recieved: 2004/03/12  10:50  
Subject: Re: [K-list] playing with body/mind 
From: v
  
On 2004/03/12  10:50, v posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
 
 
forrest, 
   uh  - omg I can relate! 
   I understand about the  "anxiety" - wanting to die instead.   I have  
been suspicious of "getting stoned" even tho I am more apt to find some  
sorta solace in mundane and trivial matters - like housework - when i  
*am* (stoned). God likes that! So does my daughter! 
   I was rear-ended by a lumber truck back in 1989 when i was pregnant  
and also had a 150 lb. Giant Schnauzer dog named "Fate", plow into me at  
that time.    I have done yoga, and I have tried "mind over matter", but  
nothing works as good as VIOXX.  Adjusting to the psychological and  
spiritual side of being in chronic pain has been a journey that I  feel  
inadequate to positively relate. I can only say that I've been there  
too.       
   I appreciate your attraction to the "Friends". I myself have thought  
they were simple enough to make the traumas go away. Unfortunately,  
there is no Quaker Church up here.   And besides, my life is not simple  
enugh. 
   I used to find, by my pride, that the Christian Church forefathers  
were assholes, liars, cheats, manipulative, and dense to opaque  
numbskulls. Well, actually, I still do. But that has nothing to do with  
the teachings of Christos.        And you finding solace in Him as an  
avatar is a blessing indeed! 
 
   I am worried though. You describe physical symptoms that need  
attending to by a sensitive doctor. I recommend that you look for a  
woman . I think what you describe physically is beyond the auspices of  
simply "kundalini, and cannot be rationalized by spiritual awakening. I  
think you've had a life unawares of your body, and now your body is  
rebelling. My sense is that you need to find yourself a good MD, and NOW! 
 
   We are not - any of us - immortal. I know that is hard for a poet to  
believe, but it is true. 
    
   You think - that Jesus said for you to come on here and rationalize  
your physical symptoms of suddenly facing your physical problems, but  
that is not true. You yourself are looking for a reason to NOT go to the  
doctor, and take more responsibility for your own health ! 
 
   I am also a Virgo, and my daughter has terminal constipation too.      
 I have enough to worry about already, w/o you trying to find another  
spiritual reason for your malaise, besides good ol' fashioned,  
constipation,   
  
   OMG - I am *so* charming, ain't I? 
   well, i don't care as long as you prioritize your health and see a  
qualified physician.       
 
   I'm so sorry to be the one to take you to task      - just nobody  
else said a danged thing - and i thought you might  some feedback. Your  
health worries me, and - in this case - I would stop looking for  
"kundalin"       
causes, and consult an empathetic doctor.   
   Just because some people seem so "cock-sure" of their beliefs, does  
not detract from the fact that we are our own best Source, inside... 
   your physical is apparently in danger   - please attend! 
best of intentions, 
v 
ps ( i may never post again) 
 
talk to ya later, 
v 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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