To: K-list 
Recieved: 2004/02/26  05:03  
Subject: [K-list] Pure Drivel 
From: Lobster
  
On 2004/02/26  05:03, Lobster posted thus to the K-list: 
 
>   Perhaps all his lovers were willing... :) 
 
 
Dear K-Men, 
 
Love has little to do with the will 
(something Crowley never understood either) 
 
The Divine Will is Love (that is the connection) 
Our will is just that (partial and separate and disharmonious 
- and that is just me) 
 
So 'Do what thou wilt' etc - is a misunderstanding 
of an earlier Dervish dictum and is not about 
personal freedom 
 
It is about sacrificing the will 
the ego and the 'I serve goddess through me' mentality 
(for example - super goddess/k teacher 
will fullness) 
 
 
>>Dervishes also have a habit of talking 
>>of internal states in terms of 
>>intoxication (advocating illegal wine drinking) 
>>slavery (advocating repression) 
>>and so on . . . 
> 
>      My own work is sometimes similarly misinterpreted. ;) 
 
Not at all - I think your 'work' 
is very well represented (by you and your familiars) 
as an extension of your ego. 
 
When will you be worthy of 
Divine representation? 
 
 
 
>    What do you believe? 
 
I believe I have no need for beliefs. 
 
 
 
>>>    and at any level, true compliments can be delicious. They can be  
>>> pleasant even if they are not true, o wise humble beautiful enlightened  
>>> Lobster. 
>> 
>>Only to the egoic. 
>>I have no interest either way. 
> 
>   True compliments are a spontaneous love offering... but often when  
> complimented, I wonder what the speaker is wanting from me.  
> Flattery=manipulation. 
 
 
You are very easy to manipulate 
because you set yourself up. 
The ego is a very weak construction 
no matter how inflated. 
 
What we (if able) offer is what 
is of best use to the person 
and situation. 
 
For example on the $ it says: 
 
'In Goddess we Trust' 
 
(something like that) 
 
Now - who buys that? 
 
Everything has a price 
and that is why Love is not a thing 
thing. 
 
 
 
>>The question is really of where one is coming from 
>>inflated sense of self 
>>or inflated capacity to serve (other than oneself) 
> 
>    Where are you coming from? 
 
I'm not. 
 
For example offering a questioning of self 
when I am questionable 
- and I am most definitely questionable . . . 
 
Most of all I do not learn cheap tricks 
and misuse them. 
 
I find expansive truths and 
give them away 
 
 
 
>I don't get the focus of these postings.  I just joined and asked the  
>moderator a question specific to my case/interests for Kundalini but  
>haven't heard back.  So far, to be honest, I'm just seeing a lot of  
>disjunctive (if occasionally intriguing) ramblings.  I suppose that's  
>better than single-minded spiritual purity!  Dangerous... 
> 
>Noel K. 
 
You are lucky you have not heard 
back 
That too is an answer. 
 
What you call focus 
I call rambling 
And what you think pure 
I consider drivel 
 
Now Noel K 
what are you really like? 
Dangerous (to yourself)? 
 
Or safe? 
Like me 
LOL 
 
Think of me as a mirror 
Now what is your best reflection? 
 
:-) 
 
 
>In the mean time, if you are not shy, feel free to ask your question of the 
>list.  There are a number of very knowledgeable people here! 
 
 
Why are they still lurking after 
all this time? 
 
Here is somewhere new to lurk Proj Exo 
ProjeX tmXxine 
http://www.cyber-shaktipat.org/relax/projex/ 
 
;-) 
 
 
 
Lobster Danger 
 
PS. Be kind to me 
(I don't deserve it - but you do) 
 
What Happens when you cross a Sufi with a Buddha? 
LOVE BUDDHA 
http://tooting.webspace.fish.co.uk/love/   
 
 
 
 
 
 
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