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Recieved: 2004/01/08  00:55  
Subject: [K-list] How To Believe What I Don't 
From: David Bozzi
  
On 2004/01/08  00:55, David Bozzi posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
1. Gratitude - Hillary 
2. Meditation - Lobster 
3. Just Do It - Carol 
4. Realize awareness - (video submitted by Oryvind) 
5. Change Your Mind - Hety 
 
 
My hero, (jesus) knew he was stuck with this incredible limitation of body 
trapped in a time-space wedge. 
 
(and such special awareness is extra painful for those with balls 
as large as his) 
 
I don't tell many people that Jesus is my hero 
otherwise the wedge tightens. 
 
Of all the suggestions suggested 
to combat and overwhelm 
darkness 
all contain one element in common. 
 
That is will. 
(intent) 
 
Action. 
 
Do something. 
 
There is always the element of don't do something 
but nevertheless I can never escape the truth 
that I must. 
 
(is god a dick or what?!) 
 
anyway... 
 
I've come to the conclusion 
that any conclusion I arrive to 
must inevitably 
bring me more suffering. 
 
As one suggestion suggests 
(Lobster: meditation) 
if I were to expect suffering to ease 
through the exercision of my will 
well then suffering will 
just go on 
(and on) 
 
Yes, god is indeed a dick. 
(much like Lobster) 
 
Anyhow 
Carol & Hety's 
suggestion to believe truth 
when I clearly do not not 
seem to be exactly the same 
(just do it, change your mind) 
 
I suppose on some level, 
which I clearly do not have access to 
for whatever reason 
 
is equally applicable to both Carol & Hety 
(i.e. neither of them have access to that level otherwise 
neither of them would have shared that 'knowledge' with us) 
 
In other words, 
if you *See* 
the last thing you would ever tell me 
is to *See* 
 
Ok fine. 
I can deal with that. 
 
Hillary suggested contemplation of gratefulness 
which is all well and good 
but 
if I am lost in a world of darkness (illusion) 
what pray-tell 
could I ever perceive as something as being grateful for...? 
Whatever I perceive to be worthy of gratefulness 
is surely an illusion and therefore of the 'darkness'. 
(nice try Hillary, though for some strange reason I cannot contact 
 I'm certain your approach offers some meaning for you, blessings to you!) 
 
Oryvind offers a music video 
which suggests 
Awareness lies beneath 
the cloudy lies always 
and one only needs to persist 
and acknowledge such 
(again more will/intent) 
 
I haven't made up my mind yet 
(and am not so sure that such is required) 
 
but 
 
all in all 
 
I feel all of you 
have offered something of worth 
 
(and of course I cannot express through words why) 
 
There is obviously an element of will (intent) involved 
and curiously 
an element of surrender 
 
Anyone who purports 
the solution requires 
one and not the other is a liar 
 
and furthermore 
I do not perceive anyone as coming forth 
as a liar. 
 
You are all truth-tellers 
(and liars) 
in your own right. 
 
I appreciate the effort. 
 
Your effort is a gift 
that I personally can never truly 
appreciate in my dark world. 
 
Were we ever to meet 
in a Place 
of any real worth 
 
there would be no reason to question why... 
 
Peace & Gratfulfullness to You...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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