To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/12/21 19:50
Subject: Re: [K-list] Regaining that perspective
From: Druout
On 2003/12/21 19:50, Druout posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 12/21/2003 8:15:02 AM Pacific Standard Time,
rick_mayweather AT_NOSPAM hotmail.com writes:
>I'm coming to the conclusion that what's more important about the spiritual
>path are relationships and not chakras opening, or even enlightenment but
>the relationship between yourself and others because we are all one.
Dear Rick,
:)) That's why volunteer work can give so much satisfaction. We are simply
helping ourselves.
Perhaps relationships and chakra openings push the same buttons--release the
same chemicals depending on the emotional triggers. Social bonding certainly
provides feelings of comfort, which in turn release certain pleasurable brain
chemicals.
>There is where I fall. I've fallen to the depths and am looking for the
>path back.
The dark night is not something I have (yet) experienced, but I wonder if it
is somehow connected to serotonin/dopamin levels falling off after the K highs
we experience. Perhaps it may take some time for the chemicals to
regroup--for some this may take longer than for others.
href=http://www.biopsychiatry.com/serotonin/genetic.html
One thing is certain, though, many list members have experienced DN and come
back to again feel joy.
Remember too, that this is also the season for SAD.
http://www.vrp.com/articles/550.asp
>I appreciate the comment/s people have made from my last post and all others
>a great deal. They have been incredibly useful, however I can't help but
>feel i'm missing something.
An interesting article on pleasure by Helen Phillips.
"we can never be truly comfortable while we are in a pleasurable state. If
we're experiencing pleasure it's because we must need something. Take
temperature. Only if we're too hot or cold will we be able to experience the pleasure of
a cold drink or hot bath. Once our temperature has stabilised, we're
indifferent to either experience. If we are in no danger or need of any kind, we're in
a comfortable but indifferent state. "Pleasure - sensory pleasure - is not
happiness, it is joy," says Cabanac. "The state of indifference is what I call
happiness.""
>This is my war dance and my heart needs to express itself, so I dance around
>the fire and sing my chanting war cry and nobody hears it !
>I've been dancing like that for so long, so so long.
Reminds me a bit of TS Eliot's Prufrock. "I heard the mermaids singing each
to each. I do not think they will sing to me." You are heard! :))
>I feel like the well of synchronicity has dried up and there is nothing more
>to experience or to see in life, yet I live in hope without expectations,
>waiting patiently, working patiently so that one day my heart will rise in
>golden splendour and through its light will wash away all that has been.
Beautiful. :)) The fact you can envision that golden splendour means it is
and always has been with you.
Love, Hillary
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