To: K-list 
Recieved: 2003/12/21  18:15  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Regaining that perspective 
From: Doug Fraser
  
On 2003/12/21  18:15, Doug Fraser posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
At 02:50 PM 12/21/03 -0500, Druout AT_NOSPAM aol.com wrote: 
 
> >There is where I fall.  I've fallen to the depths and am looking for the 
> >path back. 
> 
>The dark night is not something I have (yet) experienced, but I wonder if it 
>is somehow connected to serotonin/dopamin levels falling off after the K  
>highs 
>we experience. Perhaps it may take some time for the chemicals to 
>regroup--for some this may take longer than for others. 
 
hello all, 
 
   i've been lurking for a bit now and felt compelled to speak up now.  I  
haven't quite 
gone into full blown K mode (as I see it) - twinges and also definite  
effects while 
on entheogens.  I haven't tried to invoke it deliberately - I just want to  
let things 
take their course and work on immediate problems first (chakra issues etc) 
 
anyways, i've just gotten thru a DN (year and a half) and there's definitely a 
relationship to serotonin/dopamine levels.  I could have gone on SSRIs but  
after 
wrestling with the question, chose not to as 1) am wary of putting unknown  
man made 
chemicals in my system that don't have the track record of safety that  
things like 
mushrooms do and 2) i felt I was going thru a psychological process and  
disrupting 
it with chemicals wasn't the best idea 
 
biologically speaking, i think the DN may serve as a way of doing a  
complete reset 
of the serotonin/dopamine system - this bottoming out lets the system  
reestablish 
itself in a better way / balance (i.e. the generalization that too much  
serotonin == 
anxiety and too little == depression) 
 
doug 
 
 
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