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Recieved: 2003/11/02 00:43
Subject: Re: [K-list] Heat
From: hbrost
On 2003/11/02 00:43, hbrost posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Boyd,
Thanks for responding. My e-mail program doesn't include the little indent
arrows, so I've separated the paragraphs with lines. A few comments:
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I wrote:
>However, I don't believe it's karma burning anything. As I've said before,
>how can perfect beings (for we all are -- in time) carry anything but
>perfection? Please answer this question! Not that I would change my
>feeling about karma -- aka guilt -- but to learn why people believe there
><should> be guilt or karma. Same thing, no? And, if you think about it,
>what is karma but guilt but judgement? Who's to judge what karma is? If
>it's the Judge and God/dess, well than that certainly answers the question?
>How could the Judge create us to fail? Or, for that matter, create us to
>SET us up to fail? ;^)
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Boyd wrote:
Somehow, I've gotten a little different spin on what karma is.
To me karma isn't guilt or what's "right" or "wrong" or a "failing grade",
etc. It's not just an idea or a method of score keeping. To me it's a
matter of physics; a law kind of like gravity.
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Me:
Boyd,
My definition of karma wouldn't be "right or wrong" either. My
understanding is that it's the accumulation of all "deeds," actions,
intentions, feelings, etc., that our timeless and eternal soul accumulates
with each incarnation. So while you accumulate the good, the bad never
leaves unless there's more good to balance the "deeds." If I'm not
mistaken, and I certainly can be, yoga combined with breath exercises
(pranayama) can burn away negative karma. This concept of the accumulation
of wrong action seems to run through most religions. Definitely
Christianity, definitely Hinduism, definitely Sikhism. But make no mistake,
I don't agree with that understanding.
When I use the terms "guilt" and "judgement" I'm referring to what, in one's
specific incarnation is <defined> as right or wrong. Then, as it's defined,
it's carried forward (?) as karma. Sin could be another word, besides
karma. Guilt is perhaps an umbrella term that sits on top of sin and
karma -- for what I've just defined as my understanding of karma. But who's
defining good or bad?? ;-)
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Boyd wrote:
At all times we are supplied with energy to use as we wish. It's like
opportunity. And we use our free will to make choices in how we will spend
this energy. So this energy passes through the nexus of our faculty of
attention and our emotional and mental bodies and is modulated in frequency
in some way. If we modulate the energy frequency as love or encouragement
or gratitude we stamp this energy with a high frequency and a couple of
things happen. The energy goes out to the object of our attention and
blesses it. The packet of energy might travel around some more during which
it gathers more energy of a like vibration unto itself. It eventually
returns to us and ascends to our causal body which acts as a kind of bank
account, aggregating these energies which can then be drawn on if you know
how.
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;-) Yes I agree and no, I don't! We are definitely supplied with energy to
do as we wish. We have free will. Obviously, I don't agree with the bank
account example because that assigns time. Many times it's been said
(where?) that love is the only thing that matters. For example, if you can
look back and see, in a specific lifehood, what matters, the only points of
light are the times when you loved. Everything else is simply nothing.
IOW, we all can do everything and anything outside of God's creation because
we "think" it's our own creation (ego). But the only time we are
co-creating with God is when we love. The times of love co-create the
points of light.
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Boyd writes:
If, on the other hand we stamp our energy with a vibration which is below a
certain threshold frequency, it sort of sinks into our auras and physical
bodies and looks like muck or tar or worse. This is what happens when we do
harm to others or commit any of the innumerable things which people call
"evil". This muck is one of the primary causes of old age, disease and
death. As we hop from incarnation to incarnation this misqualified energy
follows us and gets more and more compressed. According to timetables, we
are given opportunity to make good on this debt through right behavior and
decisions, which allows for the transmutation of a portion of this murky
substance for each right decision or test which is passed.
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Me:
Your explanation reminds me of the "black marks" on my heart my mother
warned me about! ;-) I do agree that feelings such as GUILT, anger,
jealously, rage, etc., create disease in our human bodies. However, I don't
agree we "hop" from one incarnation to the next. I believe that it happens
all at once and it's happened all at once. It's that our human pea brains
can't handle "all at once" and time, as we know it, is slowed down for
our...entertainment? understanding?
I've never been good at tests. I also carry a lot of guilt from past
training! ;-) I try to forgive and understand myself and NOT carry muck or
black marks or whatever. That is, in itself, a statement of guilt, that I
have muck and black marks.
Again, if we are created perfect, in time, we remain perfect. In love, in
God/dess and time.
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Boyd:
Spiritual fire, of which Kundalini is just one particular frequency, can
"burn" or accelerate the frequency of this dross substance back into pure
unqualified light again. This is something that I see and work with all the
time.
It can take a while though because the muck is compressed and dense. You
have to whittle away at it. We are still required to demonstrate mastery
over our past mistakes in order to warrant this opportunity though. The
fire is a gift which hastens the payment of debts for those who are
consciously quickening their pace on the way Home.
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Me:
Ah, Boyd. No debts. No payment! Kundalini is an awakening, to me, to
understand that I never had debts. I have no money for the payments!! Ha,
ha. Kundalini seems to be my understanding of my perfection here and now.
I owe no one anything. I certainly don't owe my Creator anything, just like
a parent can't extract "guilt" from a child just for the fact of bringing
him/her into this world...as they often do, you know!
This lifehood has brought me closer to the understanding that the next time
is Home. I would love to go Home now, but I obviously signed up for
something this go 'round! I've never made any mistakes, you see. I was
created by perfection and return to perfection. I'm only experiencing this
human thing ...now. "Mistakes" are judgements in time.
Well anyway, thanks for your time. My ideas certainly are only my ideas.
Regards,
Hety
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