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Recieved: 2003/10/19 17:38
Subject: Re: [K-list] Your thoughts on a kundalini awakener
From: Martin Kerr
On 2003/10/19 17:38, Martin Kerr posted thus to the K-list:
hi mike, warm welcome....
> Whilst living overseas, I made friends with a number of people who had a
> deep interest and range of experiences in spirituality. These friendships
> led to meeting a man who claimed to do K awakenings in 15 minutes! I had
> no idea what a 'kundalini' was, but (wanting to prove him wrong in my
> skeptical mind) volunteered for him to do one on me.
>
hmmm..... i find it very worrying - not that there is people like yourself who
are willing to test these things - no harm in that at all...
.... i find it very very worrying that there are people who say they possess
[ granted may not have any ability ] such power, and then seem to
think that it's some party trick for amusing the ladies or something.....
i'd personally steer clear of such people... as far as letting them at my being
is concerned....
> He said he wouldn't do a full awakening as I wasn't ready,
nice of him ;-) .... did he say what it was you weren't ready for, or what
it was that you were ready for ???
> but that day
> he touched the base of my spine for a few minutes before putting me in a
> trance.
can you describe that in more detail....
>He asked me to use my awakening to enter her mind (like they
> would in Star Trek) and put her in a positive, friendly mood. I did,
> seated about 20 feet away from their table and it apparently worked!
[ cough ]
i think if one is going to ever act in such a way, that i always remember certain things:
thelema : love under will.
wicca: harm thou none.
timothy leary: never attempt to alter someone elses conciousness without their consent.
> Furthermore, she kept asking if he was psychic (he's not) and that she
> just had a 'good feeling' about the matter they discussed.
>
be sceptical around psychic villains is what i feel.
> My 'powers' seem to have gone now, but occasionally, I can still stick
> keys, coins, etc. if I concentrate very hard.
>
have you tried relaxing very hard....? :-)
> I just want to know from you all, who clearly have great experience in
> the matter, whether this was a kundalini awakening, something else, and
> if it should have been done.
>
imho:
i could well have been kundalini, and it could equally well have been kundalini
trying to protect you from whatever this person may have done.
i don't think it should have been done... at least without a lot more time, and
knowledge supporting your self and mind before going so blindly into something
which ( in my own experience )... can leave one shattered like a ship-wreck
victim lying on a beach... dry, thirsty, empty... weak.... just kept alive by the
hope taht someone will see the fire burning on the beach.....
that doesn't mean to say it has been a harming experience, i would expect
from what you have said that it was not...
> Furthermore, he makes money out of awakenings (and kundalini healing as
> he puts it) and wants me to help him out in my country. By all means,
> he's a very nice guy, but considering this concerns powers beyond us all,
who said this is power beyond us all... ??
was it not Ghopi Krisha that said on Kundalini that "this is a power for everyone....."
> is making money out of it the right thing to do? Would it be dangerous
> the average person like me who doesn't do yoga, meditation or any type of
> spiritual exercise?
we all need to make a living, so that in itself is not harmful.
don't know with regard to the yoga, meditation etc.... it depends where 'you'
are i suppose.... to some it is nessecary for them to release stuff, to some
it is less a nessecity.... try it... and find out.... it's probably a better way if
you already feel that direct kundalini is too deep... for the moment....
>
> I would understand that his services could help a lot of people, but
> where does one draw the line between a for-profit self-development
> program and a spiritual experience? I wonder what the karmic reaction
> would be too - positive or negative?
have you asked him?
>
> This all coming from a person with virtually nil knowledge or background
> in spirituality, I hope you can help me out.
>
hopefully that does not matter....
with love and peace,
martin.
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