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Recieved: 2003/10/01 19:41
Subject: Re: [K-list] Are shamans born or made?
From: Glassa Abstract
On 2003/10/01 19:41, Glassa Abstract posted thus to the K-list:
> My take on it is that everyone experiences the
> various elemental spirits in our own way, so
> although the final message may well be the same, the
> experience of it will always vary from person to
> person. her descriptions were, well, very exact and
> fixed.
Hi there,
I have always been very drawn to shamanism. Just
recently, however, it has resurfaced as a process to
which I am drawn.
I do not exactly consider myself a shaman or a
kundalite. I have already learned alot from both
processes. I see both in me, can feel both in me, and
that is all I need to change and cultivate. For me I
will refer to myself as both when I need to to get in
touch with different parts of myself. Just as I might
called myself a dumb brick, a hot chick (im a guy), or
a sassy lassy.
Despite being a member of this list for a number of
years now, going through enormous transformation,
ego-death, surrendering karma -- all that lovely stuff
-- I can at times see myself as somewhat unaccounted
for in the Official Kundalini Encyclopedia. I have not
experienced the physical pain that comes with
kundalini, many of the usual "symptoms" and I realize
that in many ways that might make me invalid to some,
or many. I do not have anything to prove.
But I love surrender. As Goddess Wills has been a
motto of mine for some time now. I love her; we are
very close. She will whack me if I do something
stupid, just sit and stare back when I beg and moan.
But she give gifts as much as she accepts them.
But as I have begun to work with shamanism more
seriously, I am able to see how she nurtures my own
interests and works with me. With a genuine intent,
and her strong will, I know anything is possible. My
interests -- whatever they may be -- are something
inherent somewhere within me. And I am entitled to
pursue and experience those as long as Im not grasping
for it. It is my desire so it is there already.
Whether I was made that or born with it could be
questioned for ever. Born it seems, but I like to see
myself as changing as it has some preparation as well.
I am where I am because there are things for me here.
To learn, minipulate, have fun with. And personally, I
do not care to differentiate between Shamanism and any
other form. To define what entails what. But I can
respect other people's choice to do so and understand
that respect is very much why we do label things in
the first place. Helps keep some things intact. I know
I can go for the annhilation when my heart is in it.
So I see the point you are making.
I am not directly acquainted with Mystress as much as
she has assisted me. (Smile) But her description of
shamanism appeared to me as a more traditional
description. Writing about the roots, the feelings it
stems from. I do not fit her description personally,
but I will play with it anyway.
- Glassa
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