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Recieved: 2003/09/27  19:56  
Subject: RE: [K-list] beliefs 
From: Goran Starcevic
  
On 2003/09/27  19:56, Goran Starcevic posted thus to the K-list: 
  
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: K-list-bounces AT_NOSPAM kundalini-gateway.org 
> [mailto:K-list-bounces AT_NOSPAM kundalini-gateway.org] On Behalf Of Deb 
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 2:38 AM 
> To: K-list AT_NOSPAM kundalini-gateway.org 
> Subject: [K-list] beliefs 
 
> "Your beliefs....My beliefs"..... 
> What do ANY "beliefs" have to do with what is actually the truth about 
> existence? 
 
Probably nothing. We are not talking about 'truth about existence',  
we're thinking about and logically analyzing things on a very low  
level that has more or less very little to do with truth about  
existence and/or other higher truths. In case the things we are  
'sorting out' do seem to have something to do with higher truths  
I'm not thinking or trying to logically analyze them out of not  
being able to think about them and out of not being in  
contact/touch with them, just as, more or less, everyone does with  
areas out of his understanding/knowing. 
 
For example, Elargonauto believes his stomach and he says he feels  
what is it that his stomach means and says he feels his stomach is  
saying/knowing the truth and out of knowing nothing about that I can  
only conclude Elargonauto is brave for doing so without better  
understanding it -the area is out of my understanding/knowing and I  
have nothing further to do with it and I won't mess with it. 
 
On the other hand I know, among other things, for example, the  
basics of logic and can derive all sorts of absurds and  
inconsistencies out of Elargonauto's sayings on this list which  
is not only amusing but also pragmatic -it's only that he finds  
it boring and MAS shares that impression (the second of which  
doesn't surprise me at all :) so I get an impression I'm probably  
either on the list in which everyone is talking about high or  
extreme high-level without first being clear with the low-level  
stuff and/or that only Elargonauto does that but no one seems to  
notice or care about that for some reason. 
 
 
> "Belief systems" are by nature 
> subjective. Filtered through our "selves". No? 
  
I believe it is so. ;) It also seems some of them are closer than  
the others to the truth. It probably goes all the way to the level  
in which belief system is so close to the truth it ceases to exist  
and only truth is reflected and only the truth remains. 
 
 
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