To: K-list 
Recieved: 2003/08/31  19:53  
Subject: RE: [K-list] trying to talk about awakening/Beat Up 
From: Paul Perner
  
On 2003/08/31  19:53, Paul Perner posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
> [Original Message] 
> From: elargonauto <elargonauto AT_NOSPAM ya.com 
> 
>    But I?m getting tired of the game and I?m starting to prefer not to 
tell 
> anything and let them take their conclusions from what they see directly 
> with their own eyes. You save long talks. :).  
 
 
I can relate. 
 
Oh dear K List friends, you have no idea what 
I just put myself through starting with a  
wacko, right wing extremist Christian group 
who held a protest in my town last week.  
 
I was on my to the bus stop when I encountered 
the Westboro Baptist "Church" picketing the 
taping of the Bob Hope tribute with big signs 
saying "Fags Burn In Hell" "Hope in Hell" "God 
Hates America" and "Thank God for 9/11." 
 
They are an infamous hate cult that believes 
that to gain salvation you must know God's wrath 
and Satan's fire. People say just ignore them, 
but it's hard when they're right in your face. 
 
I had a brief, restrained, but very unpleasant 
chat with one of them.... it left a queasy feeling 
in my stomach for hours. It just so happened that 
that day I was on way to visit a Christian 
friend.  
 
This friend is a beautiful, talented singer who has  
gigantic guilt issues about having gone out of the 
closet as a lesbian and she believes she was a 
victim of Satanic ritual abuse (I've looked into 
this and her story doesn't match up, but she  
clings to it and if you try to help her out of it, 
that means that you, too, must be in league with  
The Dark One). 
 
Anyway, my telling her about the picket signs  
pushed a lot of buttons. She's a modern person 
on one side and a trembling fundamentalist on the 
other.  
 
She dropped me off at my house and I invited her 
in (she has visited before). My girlfriend was 
home and was excited to meet a true legend in the 
song writing world (her CD is a classic). She  
treated us to a number on the piano... the evening 
was wonderful... then she saw my Wicca books and 
she changed her tune. Her voice lowered and she 
said, "I think I better go now..."  
 
Last night we talked on the phone and things 
disintegrated into - "You say you had this spiritual 
awakening, yet you still have these vehicles of 
Satan in you house... you are (this) you are (that) 
......" and so on.  
 
I've known this person for years, we used to 
date casually and have always been open about 
everything. The day before she mentioned how she 
always felt insecure about her looks. I'm mention 
that I had a beautiful dream in which at one point 
we made love. She just smiled and it seemed to  
sit well with her. 
 
Now she says I "violated" her body with "unclean 
thoughts." That dream was real and it meant a 
lot to be able to tell her about it. Now I'm some 
kind spiritual rapist.... give me a break! 
 
I feel used. I was attracted to this person for 
a number of reasons. The first was genuinely spiritual. 
She really does have the light in her eyes. She still 
does, but religious superstition is tormenting her. 
 
I shouldn't try to change her. I been down this 
road with her before... but this time is the 
last. I'll be a part of a long list of people 
(including a couple record companies) she's 
alienated. 
 
What a strange holiday weekend it's been. 
The shouts of those fundie protesters are 
fading from my mind. Summer's ending and  
I need a long lazy, afternoon to do 
nothing with. 
 
Sometimes I feel like this whole human 
race are a bunch of psychos (myself 
included). My heart goes out to the plants and 
animals that have to share this biosphere  
with us. 
 
In closing, I just want to thank the good 
people of the K list for being here. As 
much as my awakening freed me from old 
baggage, I'm still human and have a need 
to communicate. 
 
Dreams, work, pleasure and pain... I'll take 
it. Just spare me the hate and fear. 
 
Love (oh, yes, love), 
 
Paul 
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