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Recieved: 2003/07/25  15:49  
Subject: [K-list] Dream wars 
From: SAC
  
On 2003/07/25  15:49, SAC posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
 
Hello Lars and Rodney, 
 
If I may offer an alternative and radical view and possibly an unpopular 
one but it may be the most empowering and transcendent. 
 
I would offer that killing who you meet in your dreams means you are 
killing your Self. You are repelling and trying to destroy that part of 
you which you find unloveable and ugly. 
 
Let them kill and destroy you. That which you fear controls you. Where 
you place your attention magnifies. Energy follows thought. Your dream 
lives are a reflection of your real time lives. The process of ego death 
comes in many forms. 
 
The more time one spends in resisting the demonic that shows up in one's 
dreams the stronger it will become. Or it will eventually stop because 
it has been prevented from integrating itself with you. Regardless, the 
end result is prolonged suffering in dramatic and/or subtle ways for the 
fighter. 
 
Something here for you to think upon: 
 
The Litany against Fear, from "Dune": 
 
"I must not fear. 
Fear is the mind-killer. 
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. 
I will face my fear. 
I will permit it to pass over me and through me. 
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. 
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. 
Only I will remain." 
~Frank Herbert. 
 
Your maya may vary, 
Susan 
>  
> Hey there Lars, 
>  
> Alcohol seems to make me not remember dreams at all...sorry.  My 
pattern 
> throughout life has been to work until exhaustion and or have drinks 
up 
> till 
> going to bed. 
> During cancer rehab at home is when I met my spirit guide.  He told me 
his 
> name and was in the form of a crow.  Since this time people of the 
> spiritual 
> nature have been drawn to me or me to them. 
> Since Jim taught me how to shield and ground myself I have actually 
been 
> more the aggressor in my "mares".  For example...chasing a butcher of 
> children and after losing him/it... going to the air like an old b52 
> footage, locating him/it and surprising it.  I have actually tackled 
them 
> and forced them to look into my eyes to see what would happen.  The 
dark 
> entities would be wearing shades or just have flat black eyes.  They 
use 
> tricks to scare and seduce you in your dreams to take you off balance 
and 
> therefore gain the upper hand in they're battle.  Its weird but I yell 
or 
> scream when frightened however I use the fear to turn to anger which 
gets 
> me 
> up on my feet and I regain pursuit. 
> The most productive battles have been WITHOUT alcohol.  This actually 
> would 
> seem to open or weaken some energy level and the darker forces may see 
the 
> imbalance in this...even an opaque warrior? 
> One other thing is that I seem to use my talents from the waking world 
to 
> do 
> the battle in the dream world...Indonesian martial arts.  You seem to 
> refer 
> to energy usage?   How do you feel when this occurs and how do you do 
it? 
> I 
> feel that like the entieis in Castanadas book The Art of Dreaming, 
that 
> these beings in our dreams and nightmares are useing our awarness and 
> exsistance in the dream state to feed and justify they're own being? 
I 
> could be wrong but I will confer with Jim on this. 
>  
> Rodney 
>  
> I have only known one dream warrior, Jim, he was taught by White 
Raven. 
> Both are here in northern Michigan.  He sought me out and I go with 
the 
> Universe and its undulations. 
>  
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