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Recieved: 2003/07/20  19:53  
Subject: Re: [K-list] And the next question ...... 
From: Druout
  
On 2003/07/20  19:53, Druout posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
Carole writes: 
 
>From that night on I was terrified to go to bed, as soon as I turned the  
light out I >would see horrifying things just like out of a horror film.   
Grotesque faces, rotting >corpses - the lot.   
 
Dear Carole, 
 
These phantasmagoric shapes are interesting.  I get them fairly frequently  
just before going to sleep.  They seem to be common--perhaps even archetypal.  I  
simply force myself to relax and look at them.  They can shift into all sorts  
of interesting forms.  I wonder if cartoonists are naturally talented in  
seeing changing faces. 
   
 
>Also I used to see very fast moving geometrical shapes which used to scare  
me, >and were accompanied by a loud noise like tinnitus (I suffer with tinnitus  
and >deafness).  I would also hear all sorts of sounds, loud bangs, laughter,  
snatches of >conversation.  All of this of course made me think I was going  
mad.  
 
The fear of madness, is, of course, one of the greatest fears with K.  I was  
lucky in that I immediately felt I might be going mad, but I simply didn't  
care.  I found it all too fascinating.  But I had previous experiences with LSD,  
and a knowledge of what Kundalini was, so I knew a bit what to expect.  I hope  
that the huge amount of information out there now will help alleviate the  
fears.  Alas, some websites seem to feed into them instead. 
 
It's how we *interpret* the sounds and shapes we see that is all important.   
 
> I felt that there was an intelligence behind who or whatever was causing  
these >things, and this I think is why I believed the psychic attack  
explanation. Some of >the things I recall seeing are: 
>Waking up to see the bed engulfed in flames   
 
Pretty scary!  When we are K active we make visual analogies to physical  
occurances.  We feel extraordinary heat that we can't account for, so fear tells  
us we are literally in flames.  In fact, K seems to be rather literal minded!   
LOL!  It is intelligent, though, which makes it very strange to our ordinary  
consciousness.   Fire dreams as well as water dreams are very common during  
some K stages. 
 
>Seeing the bed covered in what looked like a huge cobweb 
>Seeing a red light hovering in the room 
>There were different things every day, so I don't remember them all and  
anyway >tried to put them out of my mind! 
 
Yeah!  K trying to get your attention!  :)) 
 
<snip> 
> At this time suddenly everything became very black and white to me - no > 
shades >of grey, people close to me commented that I had stopped being open to > 
other's >beliefs and was seeing everything as either good or evil.  To me it  
felt as if two >paths were open to me, one the right hand/good/heavenly path,  
and the other left >hand/hell which was so terrifying that there was only once  
choice as to which to >take. 
 
Interesting!  Sooner or later I think the two merge--everything just *is.* 
  
>During this time I used to have disturbing bodily sensations, the most  
memorable >being: feeling that the facial bones were moving, especially at top of  
nose/forehead 
>strange sensation right side of face, arms, spine 
>feeling that the top of the head was wide open 
 
Yeah!  K energy pushing and pulling on us.--making the energy flow through us  
more easily. 
  
>I was treated for depression with medication and counselling, and somehow  
managed to continue to work throughout this period.  For at least 2 years I had  
nothing to do with spiritual matters at all, and only regained my interest and  
beliefs very gradually. 
 
Not surprising since you had little idea what was going on 
  
>Spiritual teachers told me that these experiences happened because of my > 
sensitivity and level of spiritual development, and that my fear was attracting  
entities >which feed off the fear and promote more fear to continue their  
feed.  I was taught >many protection methods, none of which I ever felt helped. 
 
Well, my take is a little different.  Sometimes protection may be necessary  
when we can't release fear in any other way, but I feel that fear is what  
causes negative interpretations of the energy.  Acceptance is, for me, the fastest  
way of dealing with these phenomena. 
 
Thanks for sharing!  
 
Love, Hillary 
 
 
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