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Recieved: 2003/07/04 00:53
Subject: Re: [K-list] Enlightenment today? Gone tomorrow
From: Rick Mayweather


On 2003/07/04 00:53, Rick Mayweather posted thus to the K-list:




Very thoughtful post.

I would like to add some further thoughts.

limited mind consciousness(ego) -> complete body consciousness -> animal
nature -> wanting to re-connect with nature

I wanted to add in the re-connecting to nature part especially. I think
many of us feel disconnected from nature, and I really long to find a way to
become whole with it on a permanent basis. To become one with the earth,
the animals, the mountains and the hills. The concrete city is like ego in
a way, suffocating and choking and nature, the healing mother prepared to
take anyone into her bosom and provide loving *healing* care.

I find it very difficult to accept my body, I criticise it a lot and yet
it's the platform for everything including the spiritual journey. The body
sexuality topic is for me the hardest one to deal with. Society's
repression has caused so much damage, it takes a long time to work your way
through the trauma. Just to repeat the words I am a sexual being is so very
difficult, and sometimes laughable. We should'nt take it seriously,
seriousness is a disease.

You mentioned the devil. To me the devil is nothing but the ego from a
Christian viewpoint. It's interesting to view sexuality as the devil.

I do trust Kundalini, however rough the journey is or hopefully is not, I
like to think of the Self guiding me home for the greater good.

>From: "Julie D" <tarnie7 AT_NOSPAM optusnet.com.au>
>To: "Rick Mayweather" <rick_mayweather AT_NOSPAM hotmail.com>,
><k-list AT_NOSPAM kundalini-gateway.org>
>Subject: Re: [K-list] Enlightenment today? Gone tomorrow
>Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:29:49 +1000
>
>**please remember to delete most of email you are responding to, before
>posting your comments to the list.**
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rick Mayweather" <rick_mayweather AT_NOSPAM hotmail.com>
>
> > >It sounds like "THE END" to me. What will you do then?
> >
> > This is the big question for me. As I disassociate from body
>consciousness
> > the events that used to fill my time, shopping, friends etc have less
>and
> > less meaning, and only that what is spritual, eternal interests me.
>
>Rick, for me disassociating from body consciousness is a problem. I can't
>do this and feel whole or happy. In fact, I can't do this and feel!
>Rather
>I finish up having thoughts that mascarade as feelings. Over the years
>since
>my Kundalini rose I have come to appreciate my body more and more. I often
>watch it and am amazed at it's simple, effective, elegance. I also think
>that it is through our personal body that we connect into the wisdom of the
>larger cosmic body. Even before my K rose and I was about to give birth to
>my daughter, I walked out the front door to go to the hospital, and started
>to panic. The wisdom of my body kicked in and I knew it knew what to do
>even if I didn't feel up to the task. I knew all I had to do was trust it.
>I giggled and walked to the car. Three hours later my beautiful daughter
>took her first breath. My "knowing" comes to me through my body.
>
>Yet, this knowing has often been blocked. I think that as a species we
>human's have had a lot of difficulty accepting our animal nature. We are
>both fascinated and repelled by our animal functions and it is this that
>blocks up our system and removes us from our birthright of access to
>universal wisdom. This attitude to the natural is now deeply embedded in
>the collective human psyche and it takes some working through for most of
>us. One of the reason's that I chose this list to join was Mystress
>Angelique Serpent. I admire the way that she has worked through these
>inhibitary blocks of our mind and is so up front about them. I think that
>this is a big part of the primal split in our psyche and it makes our body,
>and particularly our sexual nature into the Devil. Before Adam and Eve ate
>the apple from the tree of knowledge, the tree of good and evil, they
>didn't
>realise that they were different. They had just been enjoying the Garden
>of
>Eden. After their bite they became self aware and found fig leaves to
>"cover their shame."
>
>The history of humanity is filled with covering our shame and we have a
>basement that is chock filled with it. Jung postulated a collective and a
>personal unconscious as well as a conscious area of the human psyche. The
>ego for him was the point of awareness that was the centre of this
>conscious
>area whose contents are always available to the ego. This is the place
>where we store the idea or map of who we are. In a spiritual crises the
>contents of the personal unconscious starts to bubble up into consciousness
>and the ego is often overwhelmed. The personal unconscious is like a band
>of information pertaining to this life that surrounds our conscious area
>and
>forms a barrier to the free flow of the collective unconscious. This is
>imformation that we have repressed or forgotten It has the force and
>energy
>of the archetypes of the collective unconscious behind it and it uses this
>force to penetrate consciousness. In our efforts to become spiritual we
>have segregated and dissasociated from our animal nature and other
>naturally
>human experiences and it now presents as the shadow. The shadow and
>anima/animus is the map of who we think we are not. I believe that unless
>we confront and humbly accept these aspects of ourselves we remain in
>bondage to them. Then we project this part of ourselves onto others in
>order to pretend we are superior. Appreciating the untamed, amoral and
>natural body helps to integrate it into our totality. We are either all
>things or no thing.
>
>All of this happens quite naturally and often you only realise this in
>hindsight. At the moment you are internally focused. This won't always be
>the case. With Kundalini you are tapping into incredible resourses that are
>absolutely trustworthy.
>
>Warmest regards,
>Julie.

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