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Recieved: 2003/06/29 04:59
Subject: Re: [K-list] archetypes & possession
From: Julie D
On 2003/06/29 04:59, Julie D posted thus to the K-list:
Hi Jeffrey,
Thanks for the site on the Caballa. I found it very interesting
>On the topic of possession as it relates to the Archetypes, I recently
(within two weeks) experienced an event that was as close to a possession as
I care to experience. The event was characterized by acute bouts of rage
and prolonged states of sexual arousal with heightened even cosmic orgasms,
followed by chaotic immunity, excruciating pains in the abdomen, neck and
shoulders, as well as in the lower back. I also experienced other peculiar
synchronicities and violent mood swings from extreme ectactic joy to deep
energyless depression.<
All of these events fit into a profile of Kundalini activity. Rage etc is
often buried. Some safe from our birth other's put it back earlier than
that to previous lives. The emotional extremes that you describe are often
described as Kundalini purifying the system
> In the end my partner, who was totally traumatized by the series of
events, having no working knowledge of the occult or supernatural or
neophytic knowledge > best, was unvwilling to continue with our
relationship.
It's tough when relationships break up. A lot of the transpersonal
psychology work on Kundalini that has been done suggests that often a
spiritual crises in one partner will either trigger one in the other or the
relationship will end. My marriage ended 2 1/2 years after my K started
moving. I think it was because the common goals that we had previously
shared were no longer important to me. The relationship had lost it's
direction and we were both moving to different drums. Although it was
painful at the time I now see many positive outcomes from the event. That
often is the way i think. We label things good and bad and forget we don't
know the whole story.
>Posession is a very real phenomenon and should be considered as a possible
pitfall to the activation, intentional or unintenional, of the K-force. The
Energy if often activated by accident as it were, in the study of some form
of religious, occult, other meta physical doctrine, or during various types
of initiation in which the subjects are in a generally heightened state of
awareness for sustained periods. <
I agree that possession is a very real phenomenon. Like Hillary, I see
possession states as aspects of my larger self, aspects of myself that I am
not consciously aware of and that have presented themselves to be
transformed and integrated into my personality. A battle with them holds
the state in a type of stasis. Crowley for example, talks about the
elements literally playing hell with you unless you gain their allegance.
In this model the higher forces that come to your aid are also aspects of
yourself.
I am currently studying holistic counselling and we have recently been doing
work on the shamanic model. Just last week we were talking about an
initiation ceremony for shamans that includes dealing with this realm. The
initiates are induced into and altered state of consciousness by using
psychotropic plant material and then given suggestions of absolute
distruction. They are told that if they can just watch the phenomena
without becoming entangled in it then they will never need to feel fear
again. They are also given the suggestion that if they can't handle it they
can just stand up and the images will leave. This objective witnessing
seems a very wise way to become aware of and integrate these elements. I'm
inclined to think that the Shells you speak of are without their own energy
source and that is why they need us. Not giving them energy in the form of
agression and watching them from a position of loving awareness could be the
key that transforms them. I think this is what is suggested by the article
of El's that Hillary suggested.
>We should not get caught up in trying to duplicate someone else's
experiences as this could lead to psychosis if some one is not able to
properly synthesize the phenomena that are inherently possible, or to
extreme depressions when after repeated failures at duplication.<
All of the prophets in the Bible would be described as psychotic by modern
psychiatrists. Anything that one person sees or hears that other's don't is
labelled as psychotic episodes. If you have psychotic episodes for 6 months
on and off you are labelled as schitzophrenic. I know that if I told a
psychiatrist about my experiences they would give me that label and
prescribe antipsychotic medication. I would think that a number of people
on this list would be in the same predicament including you. Mainstream
psychiatry recognises no category of mystical or spiritual experience. They
are all psychotic.
I read a statistic in the paper the other day. One in Three Australians are
now on medication for either schitzophrenia or depression. It made my heart
ache.
Warmest regards,
Julie.
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