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Recieved: 2003/06/09 00:41
Subject: Re: [K-list] Kundalini is the obstacle
From: Ron Whitaker
On 2003/06/09 00:41, Ron Whitaker posted thus to the K-list:
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I agree whole-heartedly. I have been following Ramana Maharshi since 1995
using Self-Inquiry. Before that, 25 years of TM. I only found the K-List
because I need to understand what was happening to me concerning some new
and unusual symptoms. My Guru, a devotee of Ramana Maharshi, recognizes
the K-symptoms but has me focus on the the self, the silence.
I would like to thank you all for your assistance and support. Your sharing
has helped me understand what was happening to me so that I can now let it
take its course and accept it all.
Ron
>
>
> Having starting to plough through Ramana Maharshi in more detail, i'm
> starting to think that focus solely on the Kundalini is one of the
obstacles
> to be overcome. I've spent a long time looking at the Chakras, Kundalini
> and meditation and am starting to see that these are becoming the
obstacles,
> I looked at nothing else.
>
> Instead the focus would be better placed on the source of the self so as
to
> awaken the witness and to transfer consciousness from body consciousness
to
> the Self. More specifically Ramana's whole teaching uses a system of
> self-enquiry to untie the knot that is the ego.
>
> "The body consciousness is the wrong 'I'. Give up this
body-consciousness.
> It is done by seeking the source of the 'I'. The body does not say 'I
am'.
> It is you who say, 'I am the body'. Find out who this 'I' is. Seeking its
> source it will vanish."
>
> In many ways, associating ourselves with the Kundalini process is like
> associating ourselves with the body-consciousness. Of course by
meditiating
> we're disassociating with body consciousness by quietening the mind which
is
> nothing but a collection of thoughts, and awakening the witness. This is
> what is happening all the time, but he advocates the most direct approach
to
> self realisation that seems to exist. In short, associate with
> consciousness itself and many things will happen.
>
> I'm formulating a view that seekers are all going about it in the wrong
> direction, Kundalini is not the goal or something to be obtained or
> achieved, nor are opening the Chakras, merely the Self is to be known, to
be
> sought and then every lock opens.
>
> It's a little dry reading for the Western mind, but I do recommend people
> delving into his works and perservering if their interested, their quite
> original, even after 50 years, few teachers have been as direct or as
> rewarding except Osho.
>
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