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Recieved: 2003/06/08  06:39  
Subject: [K-list] Exploratory Studies of External Qi in China 
From: elargonauto
  
On 2003/06/08  06:39, elargonauto posted thus to the K-list: 
  
       Hola! 
 
 
>        What do you think about this? 
> 
> 
>http://www.yorkkarate.com/Articles/Q%20i&%20Bioelectromagetic%20Energy.pdf 
 
Nice piece of research.  What I'd really like to see is more lab studies 
though.  Thanks for the link! 
 
 
         Ywp. I agree with that. I would like to see an examined process who 
showed how effective is this. i.e. difference between healing with/without 
energy. 
Sure, the nervous system operates on electricity, but in the milliamp and 
millivolt range as I recall.  What I suspect is key, is the patterns of 
energy and the subtle connections it has outside the body. 
 
 
       Magnetic fields prolongate infinitely. Here you have a good out of 
the body connection for starting. 
 
  Like a 
telephone, radio, or TV, all you get is static until there's a coherent 
pattern being transmitted (such as, from the vibrations of a voice or points 
of color in an image). 
 
         Well, you have the very interesting theory in that the feto is 
created thanks to the magnetic field of the mother. Thanks to the pattern of 
the mother. But this is only hypothesis. 
 
  And what's the nature of this Sat Chit Ananda field 
you connect with in deep meditation?  Does it have quantum-level 
connections?  Is our individual sense of consciousness like a piece of a 
quantum hologram? 
 
           There are still a lot of answers to be probed and examined. 
>Right now you can measure magnetic fields from energy healers hands. 
 
 
As I recall, that claim about 70 volts being measured from a healers hands 
came from a rather dubious source. 
 
 
        As I have read there are plenty of meditions. There are even studies 
of studies of qi. 
I found this one that shows how many different studies have been done. And 
that there is a clear probe that the hands of an energy healer creates 
something absolutely different from the normal behaviour. 
 
         There are even companies that have done money with it. :))). In 
this artcile is described various companies who had used Qi to manipulate 
antibiotics. 
 
  Exploratory Studies of External Qi in China  (PDF 227KB) by Kevin Chen 
Ph.D. and Zhongpeng Lin 
  Originally Published in: Journal of the International Society of Life 
Information Science,20 
  (2) 2002 
 
          http://www.qigonginstitute.org/Chen/Waiqireview0630.pdf 
>And even science guides itself with electric currents 
>and magnetic fields. Electrocardiagram, Magnetocardiogram etc ... From this 
>information specialists can say if there is any anomaly in your heart or 
>brain ( and this is only the start every other organ has his magnetic 
>field). 
 
 
True enough.  But they're crude measurements.  For instance, we can't read 
thoughts from an EEG.  We need better focus, better resolution and 
interpretation. 
 
 
     Science can explain all of this, but I doubt very much that machines 
can equal people with psi habilities. It will always be like the difference 
between cinema and digital video. And from a mathemathic point of view, just 
the difference between finite and infinite. You can have a number as large 
as you want but it will always be at the same distance from infinite ... 
infinite. 
>... 
> 
>        What is not so clear is the importance of these magnetic fields on 
>the human body and what really does an energy healer when he applies 
>energy. 
 
 
Yeah, what's going on from an objective perspective? 
 
 
          If someone can demonstrate how the feto is created from the 
magnetic field of the mather then everything will just fit. But it seems we 
will have to wait until someone shows it clearly. 
                        elargonauto. 
 
 
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