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Recieved: 2003/06/05  11:29  
Subject: [K-list] Relying more on God 
From: elargonauto
  
On 2003/06/05  11:29, elargonauto posted thus to the K-list: 
  
        Hola! 
 
 
    Ben said .... 
 
        -- I would humbly like to put in my two cents worth, so to speak. I 
believe that instead of focusing too much on the kundalini, we should be 
focusing more on God.-- 
 
 
      I guess you are refering to the fundamentals, no?. Instead of focusing 
in the effects, 
focus on the cause, no?. If it is that I agree with you. A lot of people get 
lost in practices 
and teqniques and quests when they already have all they need. 
 
         As I see it everything is originates from devotion to God/surrender to the 
self/ wu wei 
(letting everything happen spontaneously). If you understand, have 
confidence, give youserlf 
totally, everything else comes from that. 
 
        Ben said ... 
 
     -- My deepest spiritual experiences came when i learned how to 
surrender 
to the will of God ... -- 
 
 
        The start of the solution of all my problems ( that are quite solved right 
now) where 
starting to let things happen spontaneously ( everything). I thing that is 
the big point. 
 
       People get stucked in their lives because their incapapbility to 
understand that. There is 
people who awaken their kundalini through spiritual practices but later 
don´t surrender to it. So 
the consequences are not good. 
 
 Ben said ... 
 
 -- What we really are, the soul, is far beyond the kundalini. To me a path 
without God 
and Guru sounds difficult and scary. -- 
 
    Personally I only see the harmony of the whole. Nothing else. 
 
  Ben said ... 
 
  -- Personally all i do is lead a balenced life of work and meditation. I 
let my guru, Yoganada, and God do the rest. It is much easier to put the 
load on God and rely on him more. -- 
 
 
     From my point of view is you who is loading the weight. Surrendering to 
god is like 
reorienting yourself towards life direction, that´s why life push you 
instead you pushing life. 
Are you going to fight with life all your life or let yourself go by life? 
 
 Ben said ... 
 
    -- As Yoganada says, God does not want you to get mixed up with this 
dream 
of life full of nightmares. Help him to pull you and get you out of it, by 
not cooperating with the storm of desires. -- 
 
     This life is wonderful the only problem is that we are blind to it. 
There are stupendous 
gifts and wonders inside of us that don´t come to the surface because our 
missunderstanding of 
reality. But they are waiting inside of every human on the earth. And when 
they are awakened 
things change 180 degrees. 
 
 
                             elargonauto. 
 
 
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