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Recieved: 2003/04/29 07:24
Subject: Re: [K-list] RE: Cycling of the Kundalini - Karma
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent


On 2003/04/29 07:24, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:



At 01:45 PM 28/04/03, Bhavin Desai wrote:
>My additional comments are inserted below, automatically prefixed with
>"[Bhavin Desai]" by MS Outlook. Snipping is not marked in this post,
>sorry.
>
> > From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <Mystress AT_NOSPAM fire-serpent.org>
> > At 02:26 PM 27/04/03, Bhavin Desai wrote:
> > >Angelique,
> > >
> > >First a bit of background, to provide context for my response. I
>have
> > >practiced Yoga for over 30 years and taught for over 20 years.
> >
> > That is quite a lot of experience... but it is not sufficient to
> > awaken
> > your gifts?
>[Bhavin Desai] I have been on some kind of threshold since around 1985.
>I often felt that just "a small push" with the help of a master would be
>sufficient to jump over.

  Yes.

>[Bhavin Desai] In summary, I would be interested in a genuine and
>authentic teacher/master to assist me in Kundalini Yoga.

    Kundalini Yoga is a term trademarked by Yogi Bahan.
    How do you measure "Genuine and authentic"?

> > I see... would you like to? It could be arranged, if you are
> > receptive.
>[Bhavin Desai] Yes, I would. What are the requirements? Are there any
>cautions, risks, or dangers?

    Requirements? Receptivity... ask and it shall be given. Donations
gratefully accepted, also. ;)
    Risks or dangers... it does take some getting used to. Like someone who
is blind from birth, first learning to see... would not be a good art
critic. Not too hard to learn discernment. Just takes a little time, and
practice.
    Usually, when the extra senses are first opened, some of the
information can be kind of chaotic... Ghosts wanting your attention, that
sort of thing. Generally, my work tends to be gentle. :) Unfolding at a
rate you can handle.

    > > High Masters can take on the responsibilities
> > >of someone else's karma.

     That is what I mean by how karma can flow from one person to
another... tho it is more like handing over a bucket of ice, to be melted.

> > Then I am a High Master. Mystress. ;) If that is how you define one. I
> > have been doing this for years... although I do less now than I used to.
> >
>[Bhavin Desai] To clarify, I mentioned just one attribute of a high
>master, not a full definition. There are other attributes. The
>equivalent of a High Priestess/Mystress also exists in Yoga, but perhaps
>is not as well known outside of India.

    I know... I have read several definitions, and usually they do not
agree. Some say one must have the gift of tongues, or be perfectly
proportioned, or a poet, or... :) I find the definitions and pigeonholing
to be kind of interesting, but I tend to think that limitless manifestation
does not pay much attention to them.
    There are seekers who look for a Master or Guru according to their
intellectual measuring stick... and so, of course they never find one to
measure up. Other wisdom says you cannot second-guess a Master, or predict
how they will act or what they will do.
    Before my self realization, I had a measuring stick too, and thought
that many who claimed to be self realized, were not. After, I saw the
Divine in everyone and I cannot tell who does not know what they are, till
they open their mouths to tell me their limitations, or where they think
Goddess is not.

    When your senses are opening, you may find that the information
incoming, the experiences contradict your intellectual understanding. Be
willing to give up the intellectual ideas, and yet not attach to the new
information, either. Allow it, not trying too hard to understand or
interpret it.


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