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Recieved: 2003/04/16 21:31
Subject: Re: [K-list] Kundalini and magic
From: Druout


On 2003/04/16 21:31, Druout posted thus to the K-list:



Rick writes:

>Are you saying that by working with the Kabbalah you can awaken a specific
>Siddhi of choice as opposed to Kundalini Yoga whereby some may just happen?

Dear Rick,

I know very little about the Kabbalah. I suspect, however that the energy is
pretty much the same.

>Is'nt the goal of both for self realisation or is it in the eye of the
>beholder?

I would guess so.

>Is Kabbalah/magic a path for self realisation or something else entirely.

Don't know about the Kabbalah, but magic can certainly be practiced/used
outside the desire for self realisation.

>When these Siddhis are performed, are they performed at will, or
>spontaneously without will. That could be quite embarassing needless to
>say, cause quite a stir.

I would say both. For instance, I suspect healing can take place with a
simple placement of hands on someone who is ill without a conscious awareness
that healing is taking place. St. Teresa of Avila was not trying to
levitate--she just did!
'Patricia Treece in *The Sanctified Body* quotes St. Teresa: (p. 263)

"[Rapture] comes, in general, as a shock, quick and sharp, before
you can collect your thoughts, or help yourself in any way, and
you see and feel it as a cloud, or a strong eagle rising upwards
and carrying you away on its wings....I repeat it; you feel
yourself carried away you know not whither....(You) feel how
delicious it is....(At) times it was impossible to resist at all;
my soul was carried away...and now and then the whole body as
well, so that it was lifted up from the ground."

 Actually, I'd guess will-less Siddhis are more common than the willful. But
some people seem to have more control than others.

Love, Hillary

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