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Recieved: 2003/04/15  20:28  
Subject: Re: [K-list] re: evil 
From: hbrost
  
On 2003/04/15  20:28, hbrost posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
>What Lori seems to be saying here is that "If she does not believe 
>it, it does not exist FOR HER. If she does not feed it, it will not 
>live IN HER EXISTENCE." 
 
:) Yes, I guess that this is what she meant. However, this implies 
that evil does objectively exist, and that it is so terrible to her, 
that she needs to hide from it and pretend it doesn't happen. I would 
say that the thing, which frightens you to such extent, in fact 
dominates your existence. 
 
Hety:  Of course evil exists.  Everything good and everything evil already 
exists, right?  We're not the creators of anything.  This is where I 
disagree with Susan on that particular point.  We, as human beings, cannot 
"create" more than what already exists.  Yes, we can manifest the already 
created creation to our own ego's delight, wherein free will comes into 
play.  But everything that we "view" as evil is only a manifestation of the 
proponderance of energy manipulated by our pea 'brains'.  And for our 
purposes, on the Earth. 
 
So actually, Lori and Charles' statements hold.  While evil exists (of 
course), it doesn't need to exist for them or anyone else.  And the word 
"hiding"...I don't know.  As the intelligence of the Universe works like a 
magnificent, omipresent machine, if they don't choose to see it, then it 
really doesn't exist.  For them.  And, quite frankly, for me as well. 
Certainly, I know and we all know of horrible atrocities than happen on a 
second-by-second basis.  But choose to focus on them, well...doesn't that 
take your energy away from Love, as Jason points out? 
 
>So yes, it is possible for evil to not exist (FOR YOU) if you close 
>your eyes. What you focus on expands. 
 
And what you need to hide from, rules you. 
 
Hety:  No, not necessarily.  Doubt Jason is hiding from anything.  Was Jesus 
hiding from what was "ruling" Him?  He was a human being. 
________________________ 
What disturbs me is that people 
seem to elect the worst subhuman scum for their leaders, and those 
leaders then nurture the lower, subhuman instincts in their peoples 
and lead them like cattle to slaughter. 
________________________ 
Hety:  BravO!  David Bozzi will like that one!  Friends and relatives I know 
and love are "hell-bent" supportive of "leaders" like you describe. 
However, the real leaders are the one who silently serve.  In the name of 
Love. 
________________________ 
 
If people were more noble and 
Divine, they would not let the spiritual midgets such as Saddam or 
Bush order them around, they would elect some spiritual lighthouse 
for a leader, as they do in Vatican 
________________________ 
 
Hety:  Ahemmmmm.....the VATICAN? ...... Just checking! 
 
While I stated that All Things exist, isn't it possible that this thing we 
call the Ego is trying to triumph over God/dess and attempting to reign 
supreme?  And in doing so, prevents most people from knowing what really 
exists inside of themselves?  I believe, Danijel, that the devil is us!  ;-) 
 
Love in Each Moment, 
 
Hety 
 
 
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