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Recieved: 2003/04/14  09:40  
Subject: [K-list] Re: Evil 
From: Danijel Turina
  
On 2003/04/14  09:40, Danijel Turina posted thus to the K-list: 
  
 
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Hello Susan, (and I thought I'll just look what's there and not 
post:) 
 
SAC Wrote: 
>>From a higher perspective there is no evil, just various 
>>frequencies of  
>energies. It is only energy. There is no bad or good, right or 
>wrong...it just is. 
> 
>There is only perfection in this Universe.  
 
:)  
 
>And in this universe, people 
>act in imperfect ways because they have forgotten who they really 
>are.   
 
:)) 
 
>The law of free will is working. In this way, what people call evil 
>is manifested out of energy. 
 
:))) 
Khm. <clearing my throat> 
OK, let me see. What you are saying is that there's only perfection 
in this world, but the people act imperfectly because they are 
imperfect. :) I'd say this is a very interesting statement. ;) 
 
>People create evil out of their own lack of understanding of the 
>true nature of their essence. Since evil is created it can be 
>uncreated.    
 
OK, so, evil doesn't exist, but it does exist and consists of 
ignorance. :) 
 
>Do so by becoming cultivating a pool of peace in your own heart. 
>Soon there will be no room for even the recognition of what people 
>call evil.   
 
:)) OK, so, you are basically saying that if a guy smacked you on the 
head, tied you up and raped you all day, you would only be 
cultivating the pool of peace in your own heart, smiling at him 
blissfully and thanking him for the wonderful experience? :) 
 
>This sucks the energy out of the creation thoughtform of evil. Evil 
>then dissipates and then only that what is remains. 
 
- From that, it would follow that bad things never happen to good 
people. However, observation of the world shows otherwise; it's not 
that people first invented the concept of "evil" and then the evil 
things started happening to them, but it was the other way around. 
First one person said "oh, I'm so important and cool that I can hurt 
anybody as much as I like, and it's OK because if I'm powerful 
enough, I can do anything". Then he went and killed, plundered and 
raped. The others saw him and had to forge some word for this, and 
this word was "evil", which, in fact, denotes all the disharmonic 
things in which God is not reflected, and which are based on 
ignorance, delusion and opposition to everything Divine, and which 
result in suffering. 
 
>To even give recognition that evil even exists feeds the thoughtform 
>of evil with energy and makes it bigger and more manifest. 
 
Basically, you want to say that it is good to be established on the 
mental plane, where evil cannot exist, and that the reduction of the 
specific vibration of consciousness results in observation and 
existence on the lower planes that permit disharmony and 
non-observation of God.  
However, we human beings have a certain problem with our design. We 
have a physical body, which means that we are not in the same 
position as the angels of the mental plane, who are completely beyond 
touch of the astral and the still lower levels. We can't just turn 
off everything below the mental body at will, because that will 
result in our desincarnation, which is not a very good thing, unless 
we have finished doing whatever we are here for. We can't just say 
that there are no problems, because that is almost certain to get us 
killed, or even worse, in serious trouble. You can't cross the 
streets of a city as if you were walking across a meadow; you'll get 
killed. You can't ignore the bills, coz you'll end up in prison. You 
can't just sit there and smile, for your body will wither. You can't 
just ignore all the bad things, for you will, again, get killed - 
when there's a war or a gang fight around, it is not wise to ignore 
it, it is wise to avoid it. If you are attacked by the gangsters, the 
mechanisms of the mental plane will invariably get you killed - some 
people respond to kindness with hatred, and they'll just kill you 
because you were nice and reminded them of how ugly they are.  
In essence, the ostrich tactics of sticking your head in it until the 
trouble ends doesn't work here. It works on the higher levels, where, 
if you don't observe the problems, they do not cross paths with your 
existence. Here, the problems cross paths with everybody's existence, 
because this world is a mixture of everything.  
 
>As the pool of peace within us becomes larger then we no longer see 
>evil or evil acts. We only see perfection. We can choose to see only 
>peace. When we do so we are no longer 'hooked' into evil. Peace and 
>harmony prevails. 
 
:)) OK, now I'll tell you a story. There is a guy who gets drunk 
every day, and then beats up his wife and rapes his daughter. After 
that, he gets another beer. His family is starving, and one day, he 
simply gets tired of them and kills them both, slowly, painfully, and 
smiles - he really did show them this time, did he. Fuck them 
bitches. 
OK. You go tell this guy that he's in fact a creature of love and 
light, that he is the embodiment of the Divine Self, that all the 
greatest qualities are in his innermost nature. In fact, don't ever 
bother to observe the shotgun he's pointing at your head, and when he 
blows you up and smiles (he he, look at this mess, he he), you will 
know that he in fact did a good and noble thing there, freeing you 
from your bodily bondage, so that you can now go to that place where 
there is no evil, no harm, nothing but the ocean of peace, smiling at 
the light of the stars above. 
;>>>>> 
(Oh I'm bad, evil in fact, yes I am, yup:)) 
 
Hello everybody. :) 0:-) 
 
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