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Recieved: 2003/04/06  22:26  
Subject: [K-list] RE: Heroism vs surrender 
From: elargonauto
  
On 2003/04/06  22:26, elargonauto posted thus to the K-list: 
         Hola!!! 
 
 
> Ken writes 
> 
> "It's like the hero's journey.  A hero doesn't give up.  Surrender equates 
> to  loosing heart and giving up to me." 
 
    Hillary writes 
 
[snip] 
> I think the purpose of surrender, aside from relaxing the body, is to come to 
> the realization that there is nothing we have to do--no fight to 
> fight--nothing to change.  Everything is perfection.  All is already under 
> control.  We have already "won." 
 
 
         My experience has been very,very related with the hero´s journey. For long years I used to read books were the personages 
were people doing personal quests who could last years. They used to travel alone afronting all kind of dangers and enduring 
everything. My favourite was Roland of Gilead from the Dark Tower´s books on Stephen King. He had been about twenty years travelling 
along the Middle Earth always too the limit and at the books he have to endure absolut out of the limit expriences. He was my model 
, the word surrender was not in my vocabulary over the years I mentally prepared myself to endure whatever was needed. I saw myself 
as a soldier who goes from battle to battle only hoping to find peace after one of them. Never rest but never surrender. All who 
surrounded me could fail down but I wasn´t going to do. 
 
        The fact is that all these "soldierly virtues" are supreme but if they are directed towards the righ direction. At the end I 
realize that all these battles had been against myself, and that the real courage was to stop any kind of struggle. So it was not 
surrendering but realizing that non-doing I was doing the best thing permanently. An I used this time all the hero´s virtues toward 
resist a long winter just letting myself go. I should admitt that is harder than the one before. There is no apparent glory in it, 
there are no victories or trophy and the starting is from the humblest level. But if you want to reach peace is absolutely necessary 
that you give up any fight. You are only destroying yourself doing so. 
 
         So it is not surrendering but understanding how things really work as Hillary said. 
 
 
                                elargonauto, please stop fighting. 
 
 
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