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Recieved: 2003/04/05  19:14  
Subject: Re: [K-list] What God do we believe in? 
From: Dean Robbins
  
On 2003/04/05  19:14, Dean Robbins posted thus to the K-list: 
 Hi Rich, Ken and List, 
 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rich" <ulterium AT_NOSPAM barrysworld.com> 
> To: <k-list AT_NOSPAM kundalini-gateway.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:18 PM 
> Subject: RE: [K-list] What God do we believe in? 
 
> > > See, it's like the computer game.  Surrender is not an option to a 
warrior. 
 
> Interesting comparison. In my idea, surrender is really the opposite to 
> defeat (or victory). Breaking this for a warrior would be breaking their 
> identity or concept of self. 
 
> I found it quite moving to see in the film Hero that the 'hero' considered 
> peace or non-violence as the greatest learning for a warrior. In the film, 
> this was something that was very difficult for the warrior to grasp but in 
> the end they _realised_ it. No longer to _be_ the warrior. Winning by not 
> in the game. 
 
Do you know Vernon Kitabu Turner? He is a Kung Fu martial artist and Zen 
master, and a man of great humility. In his book titled "Soul sword: The way 
and mind of a Zen warrior", he writes about winning the fight without 
participating. I'll quote a small passage: 
 
"When two masters cross swords or fight hand to hand, neither moves. 
Instead, they remain still... concentrated. If they are equally matched there 
will be no battle... for neither man will find a "suki" - a  weakness - in 
his enemy.  Weakness may be just a flash of doubt in the mind. One moment of 
doubt is enough. The skilled attacker senses that flaw and attacks where his 
opponent feels most vulnerable." 
 
Apparently, these Zen masters are so in "tune" with the chi nature, they have 
no reason 
to attack each other whatsoever. There is perfect harmony, they are 
resonating to the same "tune". I read somewhere on the internet, that Vernon 
challenged six of the top martial artists in the world, he took them on 
simultaneously, and he was blind-folded too. Each opponent that attacked him 
did not feel any 
force from him while he defended himself, all the opponents were 
defeated by him within moments, he literally took then to the floor, 
on a pillow of air, and without harming them. All his challengers could not 
figure out how he did it. 
They said, it was like he wasn't in the fight. 
 
I highly recommend his book to anyone who is interested in his life and how 
he came to know the secret of this divine and gracious Force, a Force that 
harms no 
one, a Force that even protects the attackers from harming themselves. 
 
Vernon always said that it was not him that fought, He said he was purely 
instumental 
to the greater Power. He compared this Force to the wind in nature. He said, 
"I am the tree bending in theWind," 
 
I have always been in awe of the Buddhist martial arts and Tai Chi, it's all 
so very moving, 
Dean 
 
 
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