To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/03/13 20:40
Subject: Re: [K-list] Panic attacks poll interim results
From: Kenric McDowell
On 2003/03/13 20:40, Kenric McDowell posted thus to the K-list:
Hi,
I used to have panic attacks as a teenager. It happened rarely but I
can see a connection with K now. I remember concentrating and
controlling my breathing during panic attacks. It is interesting that I
now do yoga and breathing is so important to me. Until my K woke up I
was also extremely sensitive to blood sugar level. I still am but now I
am able to ride the waves (and see them as opportunities for
meditation) and do not react with mood swings.
Also, I would add headaches to the list of previous K related symptoms.
I used to have severe migraines and night terrors as a child. These
were accompanied by intense hallucinations of my body expanding to fill
the room. If I had only known!
-km
On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 12:20 PM, Druout AT_NOSPAM aol.com wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> Only a few people have responded to the Panic attack mini-poll. Any
> others??
>
> Here is the conversation to date. Perhaps it will be more appropriate
> in the
> Threads section than as a poll!
>
> Thanks to all who have taken part so far. :))
>
> Love, Hillary
>
>
> Dear List and HIllary: Tonight I went to the local hospital, this was
> my
> third athma type attack, a friend took me to local hospital... what
> happened
> was this exactly: I was leaving my dorm room and I started weezing,
> then felt
> like I coudn't breath and my chest and stomach got so tight, my heart
> felt
> like someone was sqeezing it and a paralisis came over my whole
> body... at
> the hospital they hocked me up to a few machines, I had an EEG (I
> believe
> that's what it was called), to make sure my heart was well. It turned
> out
> that they "think" I had an anxiety attack... but I just know it wasn't
> that.
> Telling those around me that I do not believe what happend was an
> anxiety
> attack, makes me look crazy and so I question if it was or not, very
> well
> could have been, just something inside of me tells me otherwise. I
> really
> believe it was kundalini. Any comments would be greatly appriciated! -
>
> **********
> Medical people are going to classify your condition according to their
> training, and Kundalini does not fit into their system. Unless your
> doctor
> was studied yoga or eastern philosophy, it's probably best not to
> discuss K.
> with him/her. He/She just won't understand.
>
> I used to have anxiety attacks when I was a teen. I now attribute
> them to
> K. activity. Living in the moment and doing Kriya Yoga cured me.
>
> **********
>
>>> I used to have anxiety attacks when I was a teen. I now attribute
>> them to K. activity. Living in the moment and doing Kriya Yoga cured
>> me.
>
>
> [This] note made me also wonder if panic attacks and/or hypoglycemia
> are K
> connected. I had a brief run in with panic attacks in my late 20's.
> It was
> a short-lived bout--lasting only a couple of weeks--but the experience
> was
> extremely painful and memorable! I remember I kept asking my husband to
> knock me out! I just wanted it to stop.
>
> I discovered I was drinking too much coffee and needed a snack between
> meals. Low blood suger perhaps?
>
> Another close friend who is K active suffers from hypoclycemia, and
> over the
> years several people on the list have mentioned Panic attacks.
>
> Any one else? I'll make this a mini poll if I get many responses!
>
> ************
> I see that Hillary asks about the relation of hypoglycemia and panic
> attacks. This is a subject I have looked into.
>
> Reactive hypoglycemia is the result of assimilating too much refined
> sugar
> and carbohydrates into blood sugar (glucose) too quickly. The endocrine
> system over-reacts by producing more than enough insulin, which lowers
> the
> blood sugar so quickly that this sudden drop can trigger a panic
> attack in
> the center of the brain that regulates blood sugar and oxygen. In
> response,
> the body produces adrenalin and other hormones to raise the blood
> sugar by
> triggering its release of stored glucogen from the liver. Caffeine
> helps
> stimulate this release, at least until your adrenals get tired of this
> circle. A sense of panic and general anxiety can also result if blood
> sugar
> falls below the fasting level, the level you woke up with. It is at
> this
> point that a snack is most helpful - a non-sugary one.
>
> One way to assess whether you have hypoglcemia is to eat or drink
> something
> with a lot of sugar and observe how you respond. Fatigue, headaches and
> anxiety typically appear after 45 to 90 minutes. However, a response
> can
> appear around six hours later, and may produce nightmares and insomnia.
>
> All of these issues are addressed in the protein diet books, as well
> as the
> Syndrome X books, such as by Burt Burkson.
>
> What is not commonly addressed is the fact that similar symptoms of
> anxiety,
> food cravings and fatigue can be produced in other ways by many of the
> same
> foods. Grains such as wheat and oats can trigger "hidden" iGg food
> allergies
> that resemble hypoglcemia. Some protein sources, such as soy, eggs and
> milk
> can do the same. Systemic candidiasis can produce toxins from
> carbohydrates
> that are absorbed if there is excess permeability in the lower
> intestine.
> Food additives can create similar symptoms, particularly headaches,
> including food colorings and nitrates/nitrites. Members of the
> nightshade
> family - potatoes, tomatoes, peppers and eggplant - can do the same for
> people who are sensitive - which some say is about 12 percent of the
> population.
>
> I can provide more details about these conditions and suggested
> reading, if
> you like. What I find particularly interesting is that if you test
> these
> foods in isolation while meditating, you can observe the effects of the
> foods, such as increased mental activity and general anxiety, as well
> as
> fatigue. While it is helpful to understand what is going on from a
> scientific standpoint, the bottom line is that if a food is causing you
> problems, you can try eliminating it for a while and see if this
> helps. IgG
> food allergies can abate if you eliminate the food for six to 12
> months.
> However, some people have a genetic sensitivity to wheat and gluten
> that can
> never be fully eliminated.
>
> Another implication of these findings is that an unsuitable vegetarian
> diet
> can interfere with meditation for some people. The excessive use of soy
> particularly concerns me. People can develop an iGg allergies to foods
> they
> are exposed to constantly.
>
> I find that if you slow the oxygen metabolism in meditation through
> pranic
> breathing you increase overall energy, and reduce some of the symptoms,
> particularly the fatigue, from these foods. However, it seems the brain
> continues to react, perhaps because the immune system is still
> producing
> antibodies and cytokines. The result is that you may still have
> anxiety,
> though it may be more difficult to pinpoint the dietary cause.
>
> If people do not understand the role of food in triggering anxiety
> they seem
> to project this feeling onto external sources, a tendency some
> political
> demagogues and cult leaders instinctively exploit. I suspect this
> anxiety
> can also contribute to an increased degree of suspicion, anger and even
> paranoia in particular levels of meditation. Therefore, it is
> important to
> identify problem foods early in your meditation, because it can be
> difficult
> to isolate them during high levels of chi or kundalini.
>
> One more point, taking aspirin and NSAIDs for headaches is not a
> particularly good idea. Never exceed the recommended dose or take them
> for
> longer than recommended on the label. Microscopic bleeding in the
> stomach
> and intestines can begin within a day, I have been told by
> gastroenterologists, and severe bleeding and even hemorrhaging can
> result
> from exceeding the dosage. But the NSAIDs can reduce prostaglandin
> production througout the body, which may contribute to an increased
> risk of
> internal bleeding, not to mention increased intestinal permeability. I
> am
> worried that this can potentially cause problems during or after
> pressure
> headaches, perhaps contributing to a hemorrhagic stroke or aneurysm.
> However, I have no proof of this. I understand that codeine-based pain
> killers can also increase brain swelling - look at the PDR - and are
> not
> recommended after a concussion. So they are out, particularly when
> combined
> with alcohol.
>
> But my feeling is the greatest overall danger is frequent, casual use
> of
> NSAIDs. Don't use NSAIDs if you don't need them.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> **********
>
>> Ken's note made me also wonder if panic attacks and/or hypoglycemia
>> are K
>> connected.
>
>
> While there may be some K. connection with both, the specific symptoms
> are
> different and distinct. It's been so long since I've had a panic
> attack I
> can't describe the feelings in great detail, but I still get
> hypoglycemic
> from insulin reactions; so those symptoms are fresh.
>
> Hypoglycemia
>
> Very low energy, feeling faint, shaking, cold sweats, blind spots
> (bright
> blobs that obscure vision), craving for sweets, seemingly profound
> thoughts
> and odd behavior
>
> Panic Attack
>
> Gut-wrenching fear (anxiety), tunnel vision, mild hallucinations,
> "electric"
> feeling, expanding feeling, feeling like you're going crazy
>
> Of the two, I'd say that panic attacks were more K.-related, in my
> case,
> caused by the ego wanting to remain in control. Hypoglycemia is
> simply the
> body running out of fuel (sugar). A glass of orange juice or a couple
> hard
> candies provides quick relief.
>
> ************
>
> I do have hypoclycemia too.
> ... I need to eat every 3 hrs. and I can wake up in
> the middle of the night 2 or 3 times to eat something sweet....or
> whatever..... I thought it was my DNA, but I guess it has to do with K.
> again !!! LOL
> I used to be good for diets, nowadays, Is impossible to keep a diet...
> and
> during the night... snacks.. !!!
> Even more when K wakes me up.... LOL
> Panic attacks as well, breathing helps, never thought it could be
> related...
> learning...
>
> *********
>
> End
>
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