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Recieved: 2003/03/04 10:36
Subject: Re: [K-list] Newbee "coming out" :-)
From: Niklas


On 2003/03/04 10:36, Niklas posted thus to the K-list:

* Roberto Gonzales del Valle G. <electrip AT_NOSPAM ec-red.com>:
> Let me paste a phrase of your post:
> ------------
> I don't have concrete pictures in my head (naturally) but its
> definitely a "she" at least partly or in most aspects. Lets call
> her Kali, Shakti, Nature, Kundalini, ... (any of the thousand
> names of the divine mother would suffice, I guess) but I don't
> know enough about the tradition of these goddesses, and I am not
> shure if I want to follow a certain tradition at all.
> -----------
> I wanted to ask, what makes yo think or feel the divine as a she? I mean
> which femenine characterictics do you find there?

Thanks for that question, Roberto!

I fear I did express what I wanted to say in a misunderstandable
way - so first: In no way would I want to say, that the divine is
*only* female *without* being male. It is neither or both. It is
with form and without form. It is all there is.

*You* are God. *You* are Goddess.
(Gosh, here I go again... please don't call it sacrileg anybody :-)
I don't mean it person-al.)

I wanted to describe *my* *picture* (and only the picture) of the
divine I relate to at the moment. Picturing the divine has its
flaws and dangers. It can always only catch some aspects of the
all-encompassing and thus lead to misunderstandings and
misinterpretations. (Maybe that's the reason why something
similar to "you shall have no pitures of me" is written in the
bible? Please correct me, as I am in no way bible-literate.)

But *my* *small* picture of the divine is influenced mainly by
viewing "nature" (earth, without excluding anything, the planets,
the solar system, the galaxy, the universe, the dimensions...
zoom in/out as much as you like) as the divine... and as its
"she"-"the nature", maybe its "she"-divine... just a choice of
words! The divine-nature in my view stands for: existence/nature
in all its/her forms, its/her rhythmic cycles and its/her chaotic
forces. It is birth, nurturing, nourishing, and death. It is
creation and destruction. It is dynamism and diversity. It is
the good and the bad, the beautifull and the ugly - all shades of
colors without valuation. It is total, loving acceptance. I
could use all male terms - it just feels more natural *to me* to
use female terms for this fertile, birth-giving "..." if I use
terms at all.

Hope I could make my point clearer this time. It is very
interesting for me, because, as I wrote earlier, the urge to the
devotional side of the practice came just by itself in the days
of the starting of the Kryias... so I (who would have even
called myself "atheist" in earlier times) had to struggle with
self-inquiry in this aspect as well...

And "she/he/it" is sooo beautifull! :-)

Niklas

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