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Recieved: 2003/03/02  19:38  
Subject: Re: [K-list] JR, what do you mean "explain"? 
From: jlb
  
On 2003/03/02  19:38, jlb posted thus to the K-list: 
 >>perhaps you should look for a book called the "Bible" 
 
Another old adage..   that I've found to be profoundly 
interesting..  "accusations are confessions" 
 
Maybe I was a bit instrumental in starting this firestorm, 
by saying it was  self pity... i dunno...  but the irony is that 
I just finished an "argument" on another forum that was 
strikingly similar.    But you aren't doing God or yourself  
any big favors by defending "Him" thus. 
 
Pain and anger are the same engine.  Just that one is the 
suck in (self pity/guilt ) and the other is blow. ( lash out/blame) 
  
The truth is a very stubborn thing ..  it has a way of kinda  
winning out in the end.. in spite of all our misconceptions. 
 
This OMA, reaction is really so juvenile, and typical,  it is  
almost comical..  imo.   I agree with  JR.   And  I have sons,   
22, 18,  14....   who could thrash this kind of intelligence"  
and "logic" un-mercifully..  they do it for sport..  
( like OMA probably thinks he is? ) 
 
>>"where did thought originate", but I never meant it to be about  
religion and bullshit evolution. 
 
That's what makes a forum like this interesting, and valuable. 
You don't know where the thread is going to take you.  But it's  
obvious, to me at least, that you can't separate these issues. 
You learn fast too.. that someone else's reaction to what you say 
may actually be quite different than you presupposed it would. 
 
... and it still all boils down to personal choices.. no matter how 
you shake it.   Agency that  evil cannot take away.. and good 
will not.   End of the day:  you make your choice.    Animals are 
different.   A dog will sniff everything..  if he can't eat  or   f*k it, 
then piss on it.   When we humans do it like that..  it's a serious  
compromise... that we will pay dearly for ultimately. 
 
To me that proves there is a God.   To an Atheist..  that's a  
foolish idea.   I'm content. 
 
~~jlb~~ 
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