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Recieved: 2003/02/24  00:50  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Dream Consciousness 
From: mundane zen
  
On 2003/02/24  00:50, mundane zen posted thus to the K-list: 
 >>Hillary: 
>> 
>>Ramana Maharshi's quote 
>>... Successful samadhi causes a waking sleep state to supervene.  In 
>>that state you know that you are always consciousness, for consciousness  
>>is your nature. 
> 
> 
>Felix: 
> 
>... 
>Some time back I began to think that being able to maintain conscious  
> >awareness during the sleep cycle might be very desirable... 
 
 
Interesting thread.  I've noticed for the past several years that my dreams  
have gone from being some weird, other-worldy, foreign, experience to an  
extension or continuation of my every-day consciousness.  Not that I'm am  
advanced enough to reamin constantly aware during sleep, but there is still  
this continuity and wholeness of waking and sleeping consciousness. 
 
Yesterday and the day before, while in the twilight state between sleep and  
waking, I had an unusual experience.  I felt that sense of  
super-consciousness one gets in deep medition, no thought, just  
crystal-clear awareness.  I was watching a dream, and each part of the dream  
contained an important message about my life, which was instantly and  
wordlessly transmitted to me.  Because the messages had this feeling of  
importance, I started trying to remember them.  This process of trying to  
insure that I remembered them woke me up.  Ack! 
 
The first time (two mornings ago) this happened, it startled me a bit, so I  
lost my concentration and woke-up with a start.  The second time it happened  
I was calm, but as I said, the process of trying to insure I remembered the  
messages broke the spell, as it were. 
 
It seems odd that I felt such clarity when waking up.  Like most people, I'm  
usually a little spacey first thing in the morning.  I'm left with the  
impression that this state of crystal-clear awareness, beyond thought, is  
always there in the background.  I've understood that this is the case, but  
only theoretically, not thru an actual experience like this.  It wasn't the  
same as the few lucid dreams I've had.  They were the normal ego waking up  
inside a dream. 
 
Anyway, it seemed relevant to this thread.  Comments are welcomed. 
 
 
ken 
 
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