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Recieved: 2003/02/21 18:10
Subject: Re: [K-list] subject of the day
From: JR


On 2003/02/21 18:10, JR posted thus to the K-list:

Please remember one thing. The USA knows that Sadam[madman] has biological
and chemical weapons.
The USA sold them to him. Either the UN finds them and destroys them ,or
finds that they no longer exist, or the USA destroys Iraq and these weapons.
The USA is the cause of this crisis. jr

----- Original Message -----
From: jlb <jlb AT_NOSPAM scinternet.net>
To: Rita Metermaid <r1ta_metermaid AT_NOSPAM yahoo.com>;
<k-list AT_NOSPAM kundalini-gateway.org>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [K-list] subject of the day


> I agree this needs to be talked about.. its what is on all
> of our minds right now. It's the "subject of the day"
>
> I think the world is poised for an "awakening". If I read the
> public "anti-war" sentiment correctly. But I personally can't
> comprehend the pacifist politics that I see coming from the
> "left." To me it seems terribly disingenuous.
>
> It isn't really anti-war.. but anti-American. Or Pro-Leftist.
> We are using the very freedoms that have been fought and
> died for historically to express our "dissent".
>
> Are we not putting ourselves in Iraq empathetically? What
> happens if democracy sleeps ?-- Tyranny! All it takes for evil
> to prevail is for good people to do nothing.
>
> Iraq , and Saddam, are not having a political kundalini
> awakening that we should all just leave in the hands of
> God/dess.
>
> So..
> maybe neither is George Bush, but I don't really think that this
> is something the US wants to do, as much as they must! In
> spite of the fear, and descent, and even genuine concern.
>
> The best rhetoric I heard this week on this subject was "
> Communism has only killed 100,000,000. Let's give it
> another chance."
>
> Read "The Liberators" or "To Destroy You Is No Loss."
> And then tell me that we should wait until we have a "just
> cause" for intervention. I don't think the US is just a self
> appointed "Big Brother".. I think we are at the point where
> doing nothing is no longer an option. We can't ignore this
> until we have 9/11 x 2 anywhere else in the world.
>
> The world is too small now to ignore what is happening on the
> other side if it. It does matter. I keep asking my self this
> question? Given my own "morality" .. if they had Saddam in
> the cross-hairs for me, and all I had to was "pull the
> trigger"...
>
> Could I?
>
> Could I personally do it? It would hard for me.. I would have
> sweaty palms.. and a soul searching deep remorse.. but I think
> that
> I could. I would not enjoy it. The world would be a better
> place.
>
> Would I take a bullet to save George Bush? No. I would dive
> for cover, cuz i'm chickenshit. Would I stand between my own
> daughter and all harm? Hell Yes! to the last breath.
>
> ain't no hero
> ~~jlb~~
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rita Metermaid" <r1ta_metermaid AT_NOSPAM yahoo.com>
> To: <k-list AT_NOSPAM kundalini-gateway.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 7:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [K-list] please ecuse
>
>
> > Hi Felix -
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > I hear what you say and respect it, but for me, the
> > part about working to save sentient beings includes
> > stuff about not killing them in the process... There
> > are limits of course, and extreme times call for
> > extreme measures, as they say... But up until that
> > extreme line is crossed, and I'm not convinced it has
> > been, no unnecessary deaths for me.
> >
> > love and peace,
> > rita
> >
> > PS - I don't think following a vow to not kill is
> > about lust or greed, but ymmv.
>
>
>
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