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Recieved: 2003/02/21  16:05  
Subject: Re: [K-list] please ecuse 
From: Druout
  
On 2003/02/21  16:05, Druout posted thus to the K-list: 
 Felix says: 
 
"I disagree. Peace and war are just two more opposites. They exist within  
ourselves. Wanting peace for oneself and peace for the world are two  
different arenas. It's still 
wanting something. It is still desiring something. " 
 
Sri Ramana Maharshi said, "self-reform automatically  
brings about social reform.  Confine yourself to self-reform.  Social reform  
will take care of itself."   (pl 241 Talks)   
 
and:   "As for prayer for the sake of others, it looks so unselfish on the  
surface of it.  But analyze the feeling and you will detect selfishness there  
also.  You desire others' happiness so that you may be happy.  Or you want  
the credit for having interceded on others' behalf.  God does not require an  
intermediary.  Mind your business and all will be well. "  
 
Rita says:  "World saviors saving themselves first? Weeellllll, 
let's suppose that one is beyond being saved 
oneself... would that mean that it would be futile for 
that individual to still try to work for the benefit 
of all?"  
 
A questioner once asked Maharshi, "Gandhiji [Mahatma Gandhi] is often  
perplexed  
finding his intimate disciples going wrong.  He wonders how it could happen  
and thinks that it is due to his own defects.  Is it so? " 
Maharshi is said to have smiled and answered after a few minutes, "Gandhiji  
has struggled so long to perfect himself.  All others will be right in due  
course."   
 
Hillary says:  Please take the discussion to the K911 list!  :)) 
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/k911/ 
 
 
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