To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/01/26 16:02
Subject: [k-list] Illustration
From: Lobster
On 2003/01/26 16:02, Lobster posted thus to the K-list:
>Wait, wait - what?? Kundalini fragments? I do NOT understand what you mean.
You do.
Perhaps you mean that is not how you
experience things.
:-) OK
It is sufficiently clear to some that
k fragments, disrupts, makes insane etc etc.
and the Spirit integrates, heals, makes whole, improves etc etc
You are happy with your interpretation of
occurrences - so all is well and there is
no requirement or need to understand
from my perspective as you no doubt equate k with spirit . . .
>Mr Lobster - would you sincerely, in your own lexicon, describe Rumi's writing as insanity?
No I would not.
If you got that impression I apologise to you and Rumi.
He said (Rumi):
"I am giving people what they want
I am reciting poetry because people
desire it as an entertainment"
P108 'The Way of the Sufi' Idries Shah
Compared to the real Sufi experience.
Rumi did not value poetry highly but
provided it much as a good host
for those with no deeper appreciation capacity . . .
It is still considered some of the best
poetry ever written.
Perhaps it makes you wonder what
HE valued . . .
In a similar way the majority of Teachers engaged in spirituality
consider any arisings of 'kundalini' or similar enthralling experiences
and energies as largely irrelevant
to real progress and often an obstacle
That is my understanding and experience.
Yours may be different.
However not everyone is interested in genuine spirituality
That is something we have
to ascertain for ourselves.
:-)
Just as your mode of interaction and
mine is our choice.
To be fair I think you are asking
me if there is anything of value in Rumi
and what does one do after gaining a degree of stability?
I suppose the answer is to look a little deeper . . .
Let me ask you (remember the answer is unique to you
- not a requirement for me)
What are the qualities of a spiritual person?
How are they developed?
Be Happy
Lobster
A neighbour came to Nasrudin,
asking to borrow his donkey.
"It is out on loan," the teacher replied.
At that moment, the donkey brayed loudly
inside the stable.
"But I can hear it bray, over there."
"Whom do you believe,"
asked Nasrudin, "me or a donkey?"
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