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Recieved: 2003/01/23  20:42  
Subject: Re: [k-list] Helping others.... 
From: Charles Portugal
  
On 2003/01/23  20:42, Charles Portugal posted thus to the K-list: 
 > 
> > A thought provoking thread! Perhaps both are paradoxically true--that 
> > everything is as it should be, but that we can and perhaps should still 
> > try to diminish pain where/when we come across it. 
 
IMO the emphasis should not be on diminishing pain. That would be attempting 
to 
eradicate the effect. You cant succeed. I suggested earlier that intention 
is everything 
and this is a clear example. If the intent of the "healer" (in inverted 
commas) is to eradicate 
pain because they believe it is an unecessary evil or whatever, they wont 
win. 
 
Pain is a good thing and a natural phenomena. Having a baby, new life 
follows unbelievable 
pain. I dont speak from expeience but by all accounts its kinda painful. 
Focus on bringing the 
light through instead of resisting ther pain and gift follows. 
 
IMO the healer is facilitating this process. Encouraging surrender so that 
the light can follow the pain. 
So that the gifts can manifest. 
 
The pain of a Kundalini awakening can be immense. Resist and thepain 
intensifies. Focus on the pain and 
it expands. Surrender and the gifts of increased awareness and a closer 
relationship with all that is transpires. 
The fog clears. K awakening is the healing process in action. Sometimes 
facilitated by a healer who has been 
through the process and can therefore offer support. 
 
Leaves will continue to fall from trees; people will always war, new 
diseases will appear 
to replace those we've cured and people will always die. Its the natural 
order on this plane. 
So the question then becomes, what can we do, if anything? And why? 
 
IMO the intention should be to increase light by shining ours. By being 
truthful, honest, 
kind and loving we heal and our light shines brighter. We become masters of 
our inner lives and the 
external 'effects' lose their power over us. We become empowered. 
 
> > Krishnamurti was said to have healed several people before he stopped 
> > because someone he had healed committed a crime.  I don't know if the 
> > story is true or not. I'm not sure he did the right thing, if so. 
 
> Sounds like the Krishnamurti guy regarded his healing as a pragmatic 
> thing, like voting or other equally trivial mundane activity. Not too 
> much spiritual significance attached to it, which is IMO a good thing. 
 
IMO the spiritual significance of everything is paramount and healing more 
so than most. 
We are spiritual beings on a physical journey. Everything from eating our 
breakfast to sexual relations 
has spiritual significance and impact. Everything physical/material is 
transitory, diminishes and dies eventually, 
without exception. All that is left is spirit. Therefore lets look for the 
spiritual significance in everything 
from the sacred to the mundane because that is where the truth is. 
 
> However much you keep healing people, they will still die eventually. 
 
You're not wrong. 
 
> Someone might be hit by a car 5 minutes after having their terminal 
> cancer miraculously healed by a witch doctor. 
 
But they might die believing in a higher power than themsleves. They might 
die enlightened, aware of the 
illusion of duality. It might even make the journey from the physical to the 
spiritual less of a shock and 
a smooth transition as they pass with a greater sense of truth. 
 
> And death, disease, suffering, ... [list goes on] are not something we 
> should devote our lives fighting against, because such efforts have a 
> tendency to fail. 
 
It would be futile to try. That is the beauty of surrender. Healing is 
surrender. Surrender resistance and light pours 
in. Its easy to demonstrate. This is not happy clappy stuff Im talking 
about, it is logical, practical and down to earth. 
Say for example you're having an argument with someone on the phone, things 
are really tense and the resistance is 
high. Everyone wants to be right and no one will back down. You put the 
phone down and you have a choice. You 
can throw plates, kick the dog and beat up the Mrs or you can surrender, get 
off it, take a deep long breath and sigh 
as you breathe out. Anger and frustrtation is replaced by calm and peace. 
Pain is replaced by light. 
 
IMO 
Love&Light 
Charles 
 
 
 
 
  
 
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