To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/01/20 23:42
Subject: Re: [k-list] Re: Dreams, Astral Hell, Psychosis...
From: Acara
On 2003/01/20 23:42, Acara posted thus to the K-list:
Namaste Ultimate and List,
--- Ultimate Reality wrote: Are any experiences
grounded in reality? It's just
> experience, unfolding
> brain chemistry. Is there a "plane of awareness",
&separaterate from everyday
> plane? Is there anything thatseparaterate from
> anything else? There is a
> huge continuum of various states of the brain, and
> kundalini is somewhere there.
Acara: Answers to this question should ideally come
together on philosophical and practical level. Yes.
But when the Ra vibration is first ignited, the third
eye opens and there are "more things between heaven
and hell" than meets the "plane of everyday
awareness." It is all One, yes. But increase of the
Ra vibration alters the perception of everyday
reality. So how do you compare the phenomenon?
When dealing with kundalini, it seems to me unwise to
not be a little practical in application and ideology.
We all know what we think. But let's face it, the
last numbers aren't in; it is still pretty much
anyone's guess. One on the list advised me to speak
of experiences. If I came off as thinking I'm all
that and a bag of chips, sorry, that is far from true.
Right now, I'm going through a "dark night of the
soul," so other's experiences and sharing of that
helps me reconnect. It is also the reason I have time
to be on line and enjoy the group and the exchange. I
wish very much for that intent to be known. I am doing
few healings at present, and only when called upon. I
write the following experience to share with others
some of the path I've walked-- knowing your guess is
as good as mine what it "really" means, but this is
where I walked... and how I "guessed it".
> Are hallucinations induced by kundalini different
> from hallucinations
> induced by psychosis? Does it matter, psychosis
> being just a word/label
> for some state of the brain. It's a different state,
> we know it. Seeing
> the psyche in the strict duality between
> psychosis/sanity is futile,
> since it doesn't really model the brain very well.
> What we *do* know is,
> k-active brain works different from totally "sane"
> brain, so some
> psychologists might jump to label it as pathological
> a bit too eagerly.
> Accepting some of one's experiences as
> hallucinations doesn't
> imschizophrenicyou in the same group
> schizophrenics. In fact, it might
> be the thing that distinguishes you from them ;-).
Acara: A couple of years ago, me and several friends
worked with a young man who had just been released
from prison. We took him to Idaho to help my mother
with some work, and stayed together.
During the five years in prison, he signed up to be a
guinea pig for experimental, mind altering drugs.
Before entering prison, he was what I would label
mentally unstable, after jail, I'd say "gone." He was
very large, very dangerous, and very schizophrenic. He
also had some from of heighten kundalini and did tend
to use it.
We slept in shifts when he was really bad, fearing
we would wake with a knife at our throats and this
"friend" be the last face seen. This is not a
hyperbole, but fact. He had other friends. Most in
"everyday awareness" could not see these
friends--although very much aware that he talked with
these friends. Several of us could see them. These
entities would appraise him of much, often took over
the physical plane, and were more trusted then those
of us who cared and attempted to help him. "They" did
not like us, especially me, although Dean loved us--
when Dean was in control.
I could tell you many stories of unexplainable
events that occurred. For instance, one day I was in
the large kitchen area we shared in common, and he
came in with a hurt, puzzled look. He'd been resting.
"Why are the guys mad at me, Padoo,"(nic name) He
went on to tell me what they had said. I didn't
discount him. This had happened on numerous
occasions. In fact two of the men were saying exactly
the things he reported: Only they were discussing it
about five blocks away. I understand when dealing with
schizophrenics, it is not that uncommon a phenomenon.
(As I mentioned, I have some theories on this. Again,
I think it is walking back through the door and
leaving it ajar. In other words, not developing the
ability to close it behind you.)
He would speak in other voices. His face would
totally alter, and he'd increase in size. He'd make
love to a woman in his room. We could hear her voice
and his from his apartment area-- only reason for
mentioning this: she never walked in or out of the
place.
On one occassion, while in prison, he was placed in
solitary confinement, clothed in a suit. I understand
in the room there was only a hole for toliet use. When
they checked on him, he was nude. Quite the
investigation ensued as to where is clothes had gone.
When asked, he told them: "They took them." It was
established he hadn't eaten the clothes, no one
entered the room.... Never explained.
The turning point, in inner acting with Dean, came
when a very large entity, I'd seen often in his energy
field, totally took over. Dean increased in size, his
features altered and there was a frightening
powerfulness that made all of us know what was coming.
I intervened between him and one of the men, placing
myself between them and trying to talk to him, to
channel light to him. He looked at me with eyes I'd
never seen there. The guys fearing for me were
yelling for me to get away. They didn't need to worry
he sent me flying like chaff across the room, and went
for them. Two of the men took him down. When the
police got there, the kitchen looked like we'd
butchered something in there--
blood everywhere--furniture broken and overturned.
When the police came, four of them, to be exact. (One
of the others with us paniked and called them.) They
left him with us. I'm amazed with that fact, still.
Even with police and other servants, sometimes it
doesn't take them long to look at a horse shoe. They
did not want to deal with him...we'll just say that,
and let it be. But what they saw when the came in
was two of the men holding him-- one in a throat
hold. No malice, only love and encapsulized in the
love we all had for him and our willingness to help
him. I was on the floor at his head, rubbing his
temples, channeling energy, and soothing him like a
child. He was crying, and coming back to Dean. His
beautiful blue eyes were filled with love, and he was
thanking us.
They ID'd him, left him in our care, and we bandaged
his arm and head. That was the last we saw of the big
guy, too, although the situation remained dire, he was
more stable. I am reporting no cure here. Okay?
Did we have the right to intervene in his path? Did I
have the right to channel energy without him asking?
That is a judgement call. Many might disagree with my
call, but it was the one I made.
> Why should we care about spiritual future, since we
> time in the universe contained in the eternal now?
Acara: Oxymorons and philosophical statements play
scant roles in the "eternal now," of a situation and
experience like the one I just described. You are
caught in "other" realities associated with kundalini.
Later you can philosphize and moralize, and question
what "really" happened.
In the post entities, dreams and psychosis, I was
attempting to say, there are levels of awareness and
dimenisions that the energy allows you to access that
are very different from accepted norms of society. It
was made to those who seemed to just be entering this
realm. For some that can be frightening and you do
question your sanity for a while. For the rest of
the list, most have probably walked that field and
made their decision-- just as I did.
Acara: The next step is learning to use the kundalini
energy
for your betterment, health, protection, and
increased
awareness.
>
Ultimate: > And if it doesn't work, just stay alive
and observe
> where the energy is
> pushing you.
>
Acara: Yes. Pretty much. LOL But it works and on
many planes and levels of awareness. I do not
"really" believe we are LEARNING anything or really
can be taught anything. We are REMEMBERING how to use
the Ra vibration.
Blessings, Acara.
>
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