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Recieved: 2003/01/16  20:49  
Subject: Re: [k-list] No Parade!  No Rain! 
From: Kimcis640
  
On 2003/01/16  20:49, Kimcis640 posted thus to the K-list: 
 To all, After having a Kundalini experience I found it was something I quite  
often couldn't talk about.  Frequently, even from people who I would consider  
much more liberal in their belief, they would look at me with a questioning  
eye, and take two steps back.  I joined this group because I thought perhaps  
it would be a place where people could give affirmation to a shared  
experience.   
 
It is unfortunate the term New Age was ever coined.  There is nothing New  
about New Age.  These are beliefs and practices that people have been  
involved in for a long time.  Even the ideal of the coming of a New World is  
as old as religion itself.  Myself, I tend to embrace the here and now  
philosophy.  As for God's and Goddess's what ever moves you as long as there  
is no intentional harm to someone else, it is all fine.  For me though  
praying to an idol even if it is imagined is placing the divine outside the  
self.  I do feel a strong pull to Shiva and Brahman and the mother is my  
ground.  But I have associated these concepts as energy that comes from us  
all and are in every living thing.  I suppose the fine line is how I  
visualize it.  Again, it is all good.   
 
To question is good but I don't believe any of us would enjoy coming under  
attack for our differences, to be harpooned for them.  Is this or is this not  
a support group, in support of Kundalini?  Is it possible that we can support  
each others difference's?  In reference to a members poem associating a  
spiritual awakening, combustion, whatever to rape: it made me squirm.  I  
think of rape as someone taking sexual pleasure from another without shared  
consent, as something violent, narcissistic, and lacking in compassion, but  
some may view a spiritual awakening as that and for some it may be that.  As  
an artist I'm exposed to many people's creativity and some of it I find  
abrasive, but I don't believe art should be censored.  I've learned to look  
at it from an objective point of view.  I believe our common ground here is  
the Kundalini.  If we start thrashing each other for a difference in  
perspective...well then, it becomes silliness, then you're whirling and  
twirling in duality, and the only stillness, I have found, is in the self.   
 
I'm very interested in reading others Kundalini experience if it is something  
people are open to sharing.  I believe it may help me to understand my own  
experience better and it would be good to give each other support.   
 
Mystress Kundall...I suppose some would consider that name New Agey, but who  
cares.  Wayne Dyer once said, "If someone told you sitting on a chair studded  
with crystals will heal hemorrhoids and you have hemorrhoids would you sit on  
it?" and then he added "I would."  Then of course if someone told you sitting  
in a bath of acid will clear your skin would you do it? I would hope not!   
The point is, whatever we do in life we try to do from a place of wisdom, and  
since wisdom is acquired it is a learning experience.  A Buddhist nun once  
said you cannot have true compassion without wisdom.  I suppose that makes us  
subject to bumps and at times lacking in compassion.  I've found it important  
not to be attached, to look at myself honestly, but without criticism.  I try  
to treat others in the same way.  Of course I'm subject to whirling too, but  
then again, honesty without criticism.  It would be good if we can all find  
support here.  You and Acura are VERY intelligent people.  There is much you  
can learn from each other, much to embrace.  I believe enough said on this.   
Do I hear a here a here? 
 
Loving you all, Kimberly  
 
 
  
 
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