On 2003/01/05 05:10, r1ta_metermaid <r1ta_metermaid AT_NOSPAM yahoo.com> posted thus to the K-list:
Hello Julie, Riversoma, All Friends -
Warm smiles for you all on this cold January evening here in New
England, where the fresh snow is as crisp and sparkly as I can ever
recall it being. I only have a little to add to Julie's excellent
post, in context, below.
--- In Kundalini-Gateway AT_NOSPAM yahoogroups.com, "J.E.M." <bg491403 AT_NOSPAM e...>
> I believe that there may be many people who are experiencing an
> enlightenment process and have already a certain degree of
> But I also believe that very few presently on earth have achieved
> entightenment. My guess, cause only a guess can I make, would be
> these exceptional beings that we may never personnaly encounter no
> longer have to worry about dealing with suffering. Being in a human
> body, we probably cannot get away without any pain at all until our
> breath, but it probably becomes easy at the level they have
> deal with the suffering I would think, if people such as us who are
> at the first steps of the process can already accept suffering to a
> certain degree as a personal experience or with others going
> We can come to accept pain, and see it as just another experience
> without feeling victimized by it or judging it as being just plain
> and this however it may hurt, and to see it for how it can allow us
> grow and learn. There may even come a point where one may be able to
> feel gratitude for it in a sense instead of hating and despising it.
> This may be a way leading to the acceptance of suffering of
> wether it's part of our everyday life ...or not.
There are many who have known great, tragic pain, who have learned to
transcend or transform it over time. Among those are some who have
indeed embraced that pain and suffering as a gift and not a curse.
And among that group are those who have used their own experience
with profound physical or psychic or emotional pain to help heal
others who have found themselves in their own personal heal realms at
times. I am sure that many on this list may be among those whose
healing abilities have been heightened because of their own painful
experiences. I think people may experience great pain and suffering
as a result of karma. I also think that some people may have been
given the 'gift' of that suffering by Goddess, who chose them to walk
among their fellow sufferers as sources of healing, for who better to
really understand the nature of that suffering, who better to have
compassion and true empathy than one who has been there, done that,
has the T-shirt?
> Peace, Love, Light and Laughter,
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