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Recieved: 2002/12/18  17:35  
Subject: RE: [K-list] Apology?/was Kundalini... A fighting tool as well? 
From: Rich
  
On 2002/12/18  17:35, Rich posted thus to the K-list: > Generally speaking, I too think that one can learn to control Chi, but 
not 
> K.
 
I read once in a book that K can be used to hold K down (I'll find the 
reference later if anyone is interested) - basically that the force can 
be turned against itself with strong enough intention. However, 
long-term it suggested that this was not such a good deal for the body. 
 
In a way this I feel mimics my own experience. When I was quite young 
(maybe about 7) I had what I would consider now an uncontrollable K 
experience where I felt possessed and out of control. I had no idea what 
really brought this on and was in my lounge at the time. My brother was 
having a birthday celebration and my parents put it down to jealousy but 
at the time I knew this was not the case. I was overcome by this force 
and had little control until it let me out of it's grasp. I somehow 
managed to fight with it and push it down, but I guess I always knew it 
could come back. It was very frightening at the time.
 
Some years later, it did come back, I was just walking into the garage 
and felt this immense energy within me again rising and somehow managed 
to force it back down, but it stirred me up immensely. Neither were 
pleasant experiences.
 
It could have been something else but the strength of these experiences 
makes me place it as K. Considering it now, I felt there was no kind of 
entity or demonic presence. Just something amplifying what was already 
within me. But why so young? 
 
I didn't really consider anything as spiritual or have any kind of 
non-physical awareness until around  20. Maybe this was meant to happen. 
Nice to be able to place it now, but then it was very unsettling. 
Perhaps the knot wasn't tied so well when I landed here!
 
Even now I notice that the more I can relax the muscles in my pelvic 
region, the more K seems to flow and also from my experience of yoga, 
certain methods of contractions in this area are used to allow more 
energy to flow and perhaps at some stage to open the doorway to K if it 
is not already open.> I think you were correct when you stated "While Kundalini is more of 
an 
> essence and spiritual energy, Ki is more of a physical energy."
 
I interpret K as like a primal or root energy. The thing about energy is 
that it can only be felt as it merges with some aspect of our self or 
changes form. If we are in the flow of a river we don't see it moving as 
we move with it. What we do notice is places where it might eddy or 
ripple from the shape of the channel and any obstacles in it's path.
 
Everyone seems to experience K a little differently, and I think this 
relates to how it manifests according to the individuals attachments 
(blockages or lack of them) and their viewpoint (where it can be seen or 
rather felt from). These attachments are both in our inner world 
(beliefs and ideas) and the things outside of us (people and things). 
From my experience, the outer world does tend to mimic the inner world. 
When completely present, I've noticed the inner and the outer kind of 
blend into one. It's a strange feeling.
 
I understand Ki as being a more specific filtered (or coloured) energy, 
but no doubt ultimately coming from the same unworldly source as K. If 
you are talking about Rei-Ki then in recent times it was a Buddhist monk 
who uncovered the energy after a long path of searching and then found 
an ability to transmit or attune another to open to this. The nearer 
source point of Ki is a mystery to me. Maybe some large deity or god 
like being or some kind of crystal matrix somewhere in the universe. I'm 
curious what does anyone else think?
 
I once tried to follow some chords going down within me and came into a 
dark black heavy (but pleasant place). Have other people experienced 
things like this? Maybe we all have connections to sources within or 
beyond the Universe.Okay... enough!Rich
 
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