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Recieved: 2002/11/16  18:40  
Subject: RE: [K-list] detoxing your body 
From: Bryce Holcomb
  
On 2002/11/16  18:40, Bryce Holcomb posted thus to the K-list: > -----Original Message----- 
> From: Elise [mailto:eliseATnospamangel-esile.demon.nl] 
> Sent: November 14, 2002 8:16 PM 
> To: K-list  
> Subject: Re: [K-list] Scientific Method in Religious Practice 
> 
> a scientific method is per example taking a (poor) animal, taking it  
> apart, putting it together again and complaining about the animal  
> isn't moving anymore...... 
> 
> The most scientific persons are talking atoms, or DNA, but are  
> forgetting the "little flame of life'. They have tried to create real  
> life, but didn't succeed. And are you glad with matters like clooning? 
> If you take a 12-year old kid, make another clone. Than the new 
> baby is 12 years old !! 
> 
> For some reasons I can believe in some things of the science, but they
 
> do not look at a holistic view, they take the whole universe apart to  
> study it part by part. (and forget to see the connections)
 
Yes, well, most intuitivists (as opposed to rationalists, about whom 
you're talking) are gullible, illogical, Sanskrit-catchphrase-spouting 
ninnies, but that doesn't mean that "chakras" and "karma" and "the Tao" 
and whatnot don't exist.  Most people, whether rationalist or 
intuitivist, are too closed-minded to see that both perspectives are 
needed to balance each other out.  Rationalism is now integrating holism 
(via chaos theory, etc) into what has traditionally been a reductionist 
field, and the scientific discoveries of the past hundred years have 
confirmed what many mystics have been saying since the dawn of time. 
How all too human for one to condemn all paths but one's own.  Agreed, 
unchecked science leads to some horrible things, but I've seen enough 
people fucked up by unchecked mysticism to see the correlation.  Just as 
some people shouldn't have access to nuclear technology until they are 
ready to use it for good, some people shouldn't have access to Crowley's 
teachings or a "kundalini" awakening before they are able to use them 
constructively.
 
Hi.  I'm Bryce.  I joined the list yesterday, and look at me.  I've 
become one of those newbies who only lurks for a day and whose first 
post is calling bullshit on someone.  Oh, well.  I was a skeptic 
(despite an earnest interest in spirituality despite a lack of 
experience) for a long time. I've gotten into a few arguments with 
intuitivist friends who are completely uninterested in looking at things 
from anything resembling a scientific perspective.  Conversely, I've 
been annoyed with the lack of rigour in many intuitivist fields.  In the 
past couple months, however, I have had a number of experiences that 
have brought to life many of the teachings I've admired and understood 
rationally, but not realised intuitively.  Among these experiences was 
(I'm 99% sure) a "kundalini" awakening, which, as many of you know, has 
been a blessing, but a bit of a curse.  I'm starting to suffer migraines 
more and more frequently, and have been experiencing other physical and 
mental problems, hence my joining this list.  I should let you all know 
that I can come across as an arrogant know-it-all, but I'm just 
intolerant of bullshit and eager to rectify misunderstandings.  Please 
feel free to call bullshit on anything I say, as long as you can back it 
up honestly and politely.  I just want to get my shit figured out, and 
help others with their shit if I can.  (:
 
 
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