To: K-list 
Recieved: 2002/10/29  22:55  
Subject: [K-list] Passive-Aggressive 
From: HSV & AAL
  
On 2002/10/29  22:55, HSV & AAL posted thus to the K-list: Well... now you finally got me pissed off.  *laugh*  But 
that's a GOOD thing.  Everybody has their different ways 
of doing things, saying things, and apparently I somehow 
misread your post in response to mine.  I read... not so 
much anger as disrespect, snottiness, arrogance, and some 
seeming defensiveness.  More than anything else, I abhor 
disrespect.  I don't care how much people disagree, I see 
no need for showing someone disrespect when they've shown 
none to you.
 
However, you could have seen mine as being 
disrespectful, or yours may not have been meant in a  
disrespectful tone.  I could go look at it again and find 
sections that I felt were disrespectful to me and post 
them, but that wouldn't prove anything since it could be 
seen in a thousand different viewpoints, would be malicious, 
and would not SERVE any true and helpful purpose.  I have 
already been more than disrespectful enough for 10 people. 
I can only control what I do and how I react to those 
things that come my way.  So I will -try- to act in the 
best way I know how.
 
But I would ask that you cut me some slack... well, if I 
need it, I suppose.  It's very hard to take a look at ones 
self, and I haven't traveled that road for a number of 
years now.  I only know how to be as honest as I know how. 
I certainly can't leap .. well.. anything.  *chuckle*  But 
I'll be flat-out honest with you about one thing.  This 
whole K/energy/enlightenment/knowledge thing reminds me a 
whole hell of a lot of Writing and Analyzing in English 
101 in college.  I never was any good at it, but those who 
were have told me one basic thing.  All you have to do is 
know how to support your viewpoint... basically, if you  
can bullshit really well, you've got it made.
 
Now, please don't take that to mean that I believe all of 
this is bullshit.  I feel quite the opposite.  HOWEVER, I 
do feel like there are a lot of sayings and snips of  
wisdom that seem to be, sometimes, in opposition of each 
other.  And it seems way too easy to use these things for 
being the "wisest" one in any situation.
 
*takes a deep breath and wipes true tears from her eyes as 
she opens the window and sees the Goddess looking over her 
shoulder*
 
In other words, one person can give a heart-felt message  
about something important, and say something like "I know 
that I walk this path..." and someone will invariably come 
back with "There is no path.".  Yet, in the next thread 
down, someone else equally as wise and experienced will 
refer to this "path" that we're on and to respect all  
"paths".  Did you know what the person meant?  Is there 
reason to pick on tiny things in view of the larger more 
important things?  I say this because I truly have a... 
hrm.. not really a fear, but I'm not sure what else to  
call it... of even MENTIONING things such as enlightenment 
or path or experience, etc because invariably someone will 
come back and pick on those things because I said them 
wrongly.
 
I got way off topic there and my only point was just, I 
have a hard enough time putting things into the right words 
when I'm dealing with NON spiritual, every day things.  I 
want to feel free to express myself, ask questions, and 
learn without having the details stepped on when the point 
is made.  Hope that made sense.  I haven't made it far  
enough yet to understand all that "There is no <whatever>".
 
I'm still trying to figure out what Mystress is trying to 
teach me with "Whom does it serve?".  I'll get it, damnit. 
But it takes me a while.
 
Dearest Goddess, give me strength!!!!  All I can hear in my 
head, all over again, is Tori singing "Thought I knew myself 
so well.  All the dolls I had took my leather off the shelf. 
Your apocolypse was fab for a girl who couldn't chose between 
the shower or the bath.".
 
I had planned, in my previous reply, to reply in that subbie 
"cry me a river" way.. but instead I tried to stand up and  
take the assertive, agressive stand... NOT THE VICTIM.  I 
fought back, I thought.  How did it come out the other way 
anyway?  But even now it seems like I'm saying "I'm not as 
good as you, feel sorry for me."... But I'm not!  I'M NOT! 
How do I do it so that I'm not?
 
I started to take this off-list and speak only to you, 
Mystress, but I didn't know if that would be a way of  
hiding from the humiliation and I don't want to do that 
either.  I want to learn, but I don't want to hide.  So 
what do I do?  What's the best way?  What's the right way?
 
So where do we go from here?
 
The little masochist
  
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