To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/10/25 18:34
Subject: RE: [Fwd: [K-list] Re: M e's post and ego]
From: Rich
On 2002/10/25 18:34, Rich posted thus to the K-list:
Hi M e... I've been watching this thread... I have been reading a bit of
Osho as well, but I think like most things how you experience it says
more about the reader than the writer.
Yes, there are contradictions in Osho's writings, but his teachings are
there to be a guide. Is there something beneficial in his teaching or it
more important to look for the fault. We could bring anyone down if we
wanted. Try to get enough people to agree with you and get them to
accept the agreement and you have broken a persons confidence.
When you have an intent to proove something it is very easy to find
evidence to support that. It's better to start with an empty mind and
see what happens. Actually it's probably better to end with an empty
mind as well...
I do feel some of the judgements against you were strong and many...
Perhaps you were used as a channel for others to let off some steam...
Karma follows the easiest open channel... People could have reponded
more compassionately to you...
I know you are new to the group and it wasn't necessary to fight fire
with fire. You broke the rules according to other people but still that
is okay... The other people had strong attachment to the rules... Their
rules. (I know rules are purposeful but I do feel this guy has been
harshly treated and made somewhat unwelcome...).
So... M e... I'm happy to chat with you about this if you want to
continue the discussion (perhaps off the list)... I sometimes ask is there is beauty also in the ego.. But that is a
question that each person would have to consider themselves.Rich> -----Original Message-----
> From: M e [mailto:evening0starATnospamnetscape.net]
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:39 AM
> To: Kundalini-Gateway
> Subject: [Fwd: [K-list] Re: M e's post and ego]
>
>
> Thank you, steven, for your invitation to share my personal
> experiences as a 'follower' (he would object to that word, I know) of
> osho. It seems I am finding myself at cross purposes on this mailing
> list, though. I've received a lot of flak here, for no better reason
> than that I didn't follow standard procedure in introducing
> myself. It
> seems to me it should be pretty obvious why I responded as I did. I
> put a lot of time and effort into my original post because I'm very
> concerned about the gross misperceptions many people have
> regarding osho
> and his work. Yet, my very understandable reasons for going
> to so much
> trouble have been totally disregarded. And now you tell me you would
> appreciate my "not digging up old bones and bludgeoning everyone else
> with them." Well, if that's how you feel about it, then I would say
> that you have no understanding of, or concern with, me and my
> feelings -
> or with the truth. And then you turn around and ask me to share my
> personal experiences!!! Well, I don't think so. In fact, I
> think I'll
> just fade into the background here for a while, and if anything of
> interest comes up, I'll come back in and do things by the book. I'll
> smile, and curtsy, and fawn a little; and everyone will be
> happy. Ho hum.
>
> M e
>
> ---
----- Original Message --------
> Subject: [K-list] Re: M e's post and ego
> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:26:05 -0400
> From: Stephen Kowalchuk <spkATnospamkowalchuk.org>
> To: K-list
> References: <1035473739.1355.54908.m10ATnospamyahoogroups.com>
>
>
>
> *smile* the truth exists whether or not we see it, whether or not we
> speak it.
> if it is true that Osho had nothing to do with that stuff, then the
> truth will
> eventually surface, no matter what I say.
>
> until then, I am entitled to my opinion, and you are entitled
> to yours. I would, however, appreciate you not digging up
> these old bones and
> bludgeoning
> everyone else with them.
>
> rather, I would love to hear about your experience as a
> follower of Osho. things that struck you as particularly
> insightful or useful in navigating everyday life are
> especially appreciated.
>
> feel free to contact me off-list if the material is long or
> off-topic for Kundalini.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> K-list wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just for the record, I didn't say anything about ego....
>
> > Shows how much you know.
>
> > Osho is not a philosopher.
>
> > Hey, I like my jewel-encrusted crown. And don't concern
> yourself with > the glitter, it never gets in the way ...
> well, hardly ever.
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