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Recieved: 2002/10/17 17:26
Subject: [K-list] Re: Herbs and Kundalini
From: riversoma

Oh yes, please please please find whatever you can! I would like to
know what even the risky herbs are - not because I want to risk side
effects but because I want to avoid them. I will be most
appreciative of any info you can share. Thank you so much!

Namaste' R

--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., "Grant -" <lite12ATnospamh...> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> On herbs;
>
> Certain herbs have an energizing effect on the ida and/or pingala
nadis
> surrounding the spine. Each herb has varying effects on these two
channels.
> It's very difficult to obtain information on this subject with
specific
> regard to kundalini, but it is out there.
>
> There are said to be herbs that act directly on the sushumna itself
(pathway
> of the kundalini energy, which is the combined ida and pingala
principals).
> These herbs apparently are dangerous because of their
unpredictability. The
> control of the individual would have to be very developed to
withstand the
> side effects.
>
> With regular meditation and pranayama, it is said that using the
herbs to
> help the flow of the ida and pingala is acceptable and relatively
safe. Once
> the two pathways have been sufficiently filled the bandhas (energy
locks)
> can be applied and one can attempt to overflow the energies into
the
> sushumna for raising the kundalini.
>
> If it is of interest to anyone I'll do my best to find my notes on
these
> specific herbs, as I don't have them readily available.
>
> -Grant
>
> ________
> -"Your path is mine."
>
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "riversoma" <riversomaATnospama...>
> To: Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy...
> Subject: [K-list] Re: Herbs and Kundalini
> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:01:49 -0000
>
> Cesar,
> I understand what you are saying. Too much concentration on
> controlling externals is a waste of energy and feeds ego. However
it
> seems to me that Kundalini is a dance of spirit, mind and matter.
> Internal growth and external learning work together.
>
> It is about learning - not controlling. Exploring herbs, diet etc..
> can be a way of expanding consciousness by being humble enough to
try
> doing things in a different way than what you have always done.
>
> Namaste' R
>
>

--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., "Stella Maris Novillo"
<turmarasATnospamh...>
> wrote:
> > I am now more convinced that trying to find the order in our
life-
> which of
> > includes K - by concentrating on modifying or controlling
> everything that
> > comes from outside, being food, the places, the people or the
> circumstances,
> > is the same as to trying to change the nature of the tree by
taking
> out its
> > fruits or branches. The mind needs to be changed and ordered to
> find a
> > substantial order in and out our being.
> > César

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