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Recieved: 2002/10/14 19:23
Subject: RE: [K-list] Re: Karma and Responsibility
From: Rich
On 2002/10/14 19:23, Rich posted thus to the K-list:
>
> I suspect what she meant was that you dont accrue karma for someone
> elses actions.
But if I reach out to the person I can easily accrue karma from them. If
I take full responsibility for one of my staff in their job then what
happens to them becomes my karma as I flow it from them on to me to
resolve. Normally I won't try to do this and what them to be independent
and become people in themselves but I do have some babies that like
their hands to be held a lot.
But then it's a result of my attachment to help others or feel sorry for
others from their emotional pleas. Do I leave a baby to cry or do I give
it some compassion and attention to make it feel good. If I do this will
it become attached to me as the source of it's security and comfort. Is
this my irresponsibility.
> If suffering occurs and I am not responsible - if I
> did nothing to create the suffering - then I don't accrue any karma.
How do you know when you are responsible or not. Just to notice
suffering means you have put attention on to a person or situation and
put a part of yourself there. You have become responsible or added to
the event even if it's in a miniscule way.
> If I make a judgement or take some sort of action as a result of
> hearing about what someone else did then I have accrued
> responsibility and karma.
If the judgement or action is on to the other person or thing yes. But
the flip side is we leave ourselves in a position to receive the message
so to lead us in to judgement. When we are not 100% whole we are open to
receiving stuff we don't always want. When there is a block or a gap in
our system then it's an opening for stuff to flow from the outside to
us. When we cannot resolve this easily our attention gets stuck on it
and for me I sink into thought and judgement as that is what I've been
trained to do from when I could first say Bahhhh! Re-training to
surrender everything is the process for me.
> It seems true that irresponsible behavior
> would most likely lead to karmic goo. But you cannot behave
> irresponsibly if you were not responsible for your behavior in the
> first place.
Well this is a paradox. Did irresposibility come from responsibility.
Did goddess create this facet of our self. Free will vs. Fate (again!).
"Karma follows responsibility" makes a lot of sense to
> me.
Here's my take on this:
Karma flows to the easiest open channel like water to the sea.
Karma is created when we create against the grain of existing creation.
(Displacing The Now with a unaligned past or future)
Karma can be resolved by flowing in the stream of creation (The Now) and
dis-creating (surrendering) what is accessible back to the source, the
nothingness, the fabric of all creation.
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