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Recieved: 2002/09/23  09:55  
Subject: [K-list] Re: Fate and Free Will 
From: David
  
On 2002/09/23  09:55, David posted thus to the K-list: if the Universe is closed and infinitely-recurrent, as 
the Indian cosmology suggests and as some physicists 
have been more and more willing to consider lately, 
then the free-will/destiny false dichotomy breaks down 
on purely scientific grounds as well.  Our 
consciousness, as the Whole far greater than the mere 
sum of our parts, experiences self-awareness and 
recursive, self-related knowledge.  "Ego".  and one of 
the manifestations of this recursive and self-related 
knowledge is the subjective sense that we have 
'choice', which I often think is caused by the 
illusion of linear time (which is bound up with 
deep-brain structures which piece frames of sense data 
together sequentially, like a movie-projector), 
coupled with subtle perceptual distortions caused by 
the fact that the quantum-level information-exchange 
in our brains happens much faster than the 
chemical/synaptic-level information exchange. IOW, the 
time-delays in every experience we have lead to the 
illusion that we are choosing to do what we do, when 
in reality it's just 'ME' as a finite set of particles 
running the course through its incredibly large yet 
still very finite range of possible configurations 
(see chaos theory and complexity theory for more 
behind this).  Likewise, you can extrapolate this up 
to the seeming randomness and arbitrary quality of 
human social and even global-scale events; when events 
synchronize in patterns (or rather, they're ALWAYS 
synchronizing in patterns, its just when we begin to 
SEE those patterns!), we can begin to get the sense 
that once again, it is neither "freewill" nor "fate" 
which drives the universe; the Universe is merely 
running through the array of every possibility that 
can be, God is dreaming every dream He can dream, very 
often through our own dreams, I think! ;p  we are all 
just Primal Pattern wrapped in bones and flesh and 
clothing and webs of language and symbolism... when 
the limits of complexity are reached (ie. matter 
reaches its state of maximum expansion and begins 
going back inward into the 'big crunch' Singularity), 
then... the patterns all repeat themslves.  you can 
experience this on a microcosmic level in your own 
life, as you cycle between periods of copletely 
distilled simplicity and completly fragmented 
complexity and then back again, and on the most 
macrocosmic level... I always wonder whether or not my 
own passage through death's door is merely my own 
passage through my mother's birth canal, on my 
birthday, 28 years ago, on the "next" recursive loop 
of the Universe... this Moment contains all Moments... 
 maybe?  *shrugs* 
just my 2 cents... 
love, 
david
 
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