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Recieved: 2002/08/19  08:08  
Subject: [K-list] Re: Tortured By Demons? 
From: mundaneyogi
  
On 2002/08/19  08:08, mundaneyogi posted thus to the K-list: Dear Michael,
 
Yes, many of us share your experience.  And it is often difficult to  
differentiate between the symptoms of Kundalini arousal and  
psychosis.  Since I didn't know anything about K. when it happened  
to me, I just figured I was going crazy.  The main difference is,  
people who have K. related symptoms retain their normal mental  
abilities.  Sure, it may scare the crap out of you when you have  
visions or hear voices, but you can decide what to have for  
breakfast, can feel sorry when you step on your cat's tail, have  
insight into problems, etc.  Psychotic people have innapropriate  
responses to emotional stimuli (such as, laughing at people in  
pain), lack insight, come to irrational conclusions, and so forth.   
The very fact that you composed this post convinces me that you're  
probably not crazy. 
 
 --- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., "Michael Lindsley" <contour5ATnospamq...>  
wrote:
 
>...
 
>My catholic background made me wonder if it was the "holy spirit". 
 
What I refer to as the holy spirit is the direct perception of the  
divine within me, that overwhelming feeling of bliss associated with  
Kundalini rising through the central channel in the spine  
(shushumna).  However, labels are just symbols used for  
communications.  It's the underlying reality that matters.
 
> ... 
> In a familiar place, and among friends, I began hearing 
> threatening voices. I became paranoid, overwhelmed by fear. I 
> thought people were conspiring against me. For many months I was on 
> the run, 
> ... 
> I finally landed at my brother's house. Somehow he talked me into 
> a visit to the shrink. Three months of Zyprexa, a mind-numbing 
> anti-psychotic, helped me to see that the voices tormenting 
> me were probably  being created in my own mind. Can't tell ya what 
> a surprise it was to learn that I'm crazy! Couldn't stand the 
> drugs, so I went off them six months ago. 
>...
 
Western medicine and science are based almost exclusively on left- 
brain rational thought.  It is a closed system, limited to external  
objective materialism, and facts that can be logically derived by  
deductive (interpolation between two known points) or inductive  
(extrapolation from a two or more known points) reasoning.  The  
problem is, the system is limited, and the "facts" are sometimes  
based on mistaken or arbitrary conclusions.
 
Since the symptoms of K. arousal often present you with experiences  
that lie outside known objective reality, they generate conflict in  
your mind.  They disrupt your world model.  This happened to me.   
When you hit the limit of what you could bear from an expanded  
reality, you pulled the eject lever.  Naturally, the doctors  
probably used drugs that deaden you to everything, as this was their  
only tool to deal with the problem.
 
> I'm still not really quite 
> sure "where" they come from. Are they entities, or my subconscious 
> mind, or am I actually hearing the thoughts of other people? 
>...
 
I'm not sure it really matters.  In any event, the voices are just a  
tangent, fed by fear.  Some people will tell you they are an aspect  
of Kali.  You will likely find out in time what they are via direct  
insight.
 
Just calmly observe.  Be here now.  Watch yourself breathe.  Listen  
to your heart -- feel the compassion that's there.  And have  
patience.  You have been given a rare gift.  For me, and for  
everyone else I know who has gone through this, the negative  
symptoms diminish over time.  Eventually, you will be left with  
bliss and hightened consciousness, which I hope you will use to help  
others.
 
Peace and Love,
 
Ken
 
 http://www.kundalini-gateway.org  
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/kindex.htm 
  
 
 
 
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