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Recieved: 2002/08/15  19:05  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Shifting Consiousness 
From: whimsicalzephyr
  
On 2002/08/15  19:05, whimsicalzephyr posted thus to the K-list: --- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., Mystress Angelique Serpent  
<mystressATnospamf...> wrote:
 
>  
>     Ya know, for most of my life I thought I could not astral  
project,  
> because I did not get the silvery cord and all that stuff the books  
said. 
 
Ditto!!
 
And of course I have a boyfriend who has been projecting since age  
13, and I thought that I would have to do exactly as he does. But I  
think that I have been projecting before or else doing major lucid  
dreaming. I have woken up lots of times and not been able to move.  
And then I'll move my hand somewhere, say at the top of my head, but  
then I'll realize that I'm asleep in bed and I'm just imagining  
moving my hand. And I can see my bedroom in perfect detail, and then  
when I do *really* wake up, everything is exactly as it was in my  
dream. I'm even staring at the exact same point. Other times in these  
dreams I'm moving around thinking I'm awake but I keep spinning  
around in circles and floating off the ceiling and floor. It's like I  
can't control my movements at all and like I'm being pushed around by  
some force or being hauled about violently on a strong. Maybe my own  
astral cord, even though I can't feel it or see it. According to  
Robert Bruce flailing about like a drunken ghost is normal for 1st- 
time OBE-ers. 
 
I quote  Bruce: "There is a type of momentum in astral form that  
causes most of the problems. This causes you to continue moving for a  
while, after you decide to stop. This may take you through a wall or  
a ceiling etc. This impetus is caused by the thought you used to  
cause the motion. If it is too strong, or too prolonged for the  
action, you will move too quickly or too far. Only practise teaches  
you how to get about with any degree of accuracy and grace.  
It really is quite a comical process, learning astral motion. I  
remember learning to move about my home town, in my youth. I would  
start by trying to navigate through my house, usually ending up stuck  
in the roof, for a while. Then I would run down the road, trying to  
build up speed and take off like a plane. I would get airborne for a  
while, but could never quite clear the roof tops of the surrounding  
houses. I would often float unintentionally into strange houses,  
blundering about like a drunk in zero G."
 
When I'm being pushed and pulled about like this it has been quite  
terrifying and I have been screaming for help in my dreams. Several  
times I have rolled over in bed and shaking my boyfriend to wake up  
and help me. He keeps on sleeping even though I'm screaming his name  
repeatedly and pounding on him. After a terrifying few moments I wake  
up and realize I was sleeping. I don't think I'm lucid dreaming b/c  
when i realize I'm not really awake I either wake up or am paralyzed  
and helpless and can't wake up. Plus I get the whole heavy vibrations  
thing going on, and it's like my auric field is suddenly much denser.  
That for me is the problem b/c it's hard to control your movements  
when you have lead weights attached to your legs (metaphorically  
speaking). I have only ever had one dream where i realized I was  
dreaming and I kept dreaming and that was solely b/c I was having  
such a hot dream that I just HAD to go back to it. Sooooo.....did I  
or did I not OBE?
 
Sabrina
 
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